Socialism Doesn't work with the Constitution

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  1. Robodoon

    Robodoon Banned

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    So, all you Socialist, Commie, Fascist bastards...you go to hell.

    You, in all your idiot wisdom want to destroy the Constitution.

    You hoist slavery on man because you can't pull up your own pants.
    And because you can't pull up your own pants, you want to pull everyone elses pants down so they look as stuid as you do.

    Socialism = Slavery, even if you pass it off as other names, like communism, Fascism and Socialism ie (working together)

    Americans want to be left the hell alone, to thrive or fail on our own.

    Americans have always endorced "Charity", but the commies hate that, all power must come for the government, who is bent on destroying the people.

    Because there is no real government, just money and power and FORCE, which is coming big time.

    You lefties, who denouce God, but support evil men who created communism, Fascism and Socialism for themselves.

    These evil men who's creation you see as a god are bent on destroying you and yours....but you can't seem to understand that...

    And right now the powers behind death on the earth, ie the AAE or the BOD, don't care about the masses, all they do is try and kill and enslave us.....to many are stuck in the dream of fools, not understanding they live on the Earth and we are all on our own, Save God, which you reject for self, ie LUCIFER!...you.

    So socialist, Commies and Fascists, hold on to your dreams, you are nothing more than the weak holding on to the promises of your masters who have created the great wars, and who are all about genocide. And who are all about fooling your simple minds and the ones left if not killed put in chains to them. THE NWO.


    Your masters don't love you, they have two uses for you, dead or in chains to them.

    This is the world, it is not a TV show like "dancing with the stars." Stinking DREAMERS!

    You just keep dancing toward your death, many of us...do not want to dance with the useful idiots which are you.

    We know better, you know how to turn on a TV set and want....and dance with the devil by the pale moon light.

    IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    The constitution works with any government model the people choose to have. And the constitution can be changed to fit any government model the people choose.

    We could even choose to continue on without the constitution given the right amount of legislative support for such an amendment.
     
  3. hoytmonger

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    Socialism doesn't work... period.
     
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  4. Robodoon

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    I will not address you, there seems little point in it.

    There is a way to change things, but that has not been addressed.

    You have no understanding, just a want.
     
  5. Robodoon

    Robodoon Banned

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    Correct....... Well, it works for its creators, but it doesn't work for the people it was promised for....
     
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    First of all, disastrous start to the post (assuming you want a reasonable dialogue). Second, the constitution is in many ways an out of date document.
    Third nations that implement socialistic policies in a Democratic manner, such as Scandinavian nations, are doing far better than the United States. Friend you seem to be (no offense) paranoid about a lot of leftists, you seem to generalize them as evil based on right-wing fear mongering. You see Socialism and Communism as evil without viewing them objectively.
     
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    Scandinavia, Finland, France etc..
     
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    Except the 14th amendment..................
     
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    The Constitution is antithetical to socialism. Period.
     
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    Give them time, they'll fail.
     
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    France is. They had to raise the retirement age....people rioted.
     
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    Socialistic policy has been going on for decades and Scandinavia is fine. In your country Reagan deregulated... and look where America's economy is now.
     
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    Without US protection, they would already be slaves to the communist.
     
  14. Robodoon

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    Do you understand that the UN is a creation of the powers our Founding Fathers fought at our birth.

    This is just the next ramp up of the same old slavery system, to the elites who HATE GOD, and claim to be gods, who HATE man and who say to be the service of man, of the same ones who say in public want peace, but who make all the wars.

    BLAH BLAH BLAH! never mind you aren't listening. BLAH BLAH BLAH

    THIS IS THE WORLD, many tricks going on, or haven't you gotten that yet.

    You don't seem to understand the systems at hand nor the people or power who created them for themselves...not us. ;)

    Peace...someone shoot me!
     
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    ALL governments fail, they're a burden to society. Socialism just tends to fail quicker than most. The failing US economy is indeed a product of government, but not because of deregulation. The US economy is failing because of too much government intervention.
     
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    Based on every model of socialism ever attempted, or idea of socialism ever conceived of, in human history, I'd say you'd have to throw it out entirely and rewrite it for it to striate. Then it wouldn't be the constitution anymore.
     
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    The 14th amendment can be amended out of existence. As can any or all of our rights.
     
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    Socialism is just a public ownership of the markets. Nothing in the constitution prevents such a thing.
     
  19. TheTaoOfBill

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    Why do conservatives assume just because something is disagreeable it's also unconstitutional? There is literally nothing in the constitution that prevents public ownership of the markets. Nothing. In fact congress is given the right to regulate the markets how it sees fit. If it saw that regulation required complete control of the economy it could very well take control of the markets under the constitutional powers.

    But they won't because A. It's not sound economic policy. And B. There are maybe 1 or 2 congress people currently in office who would want such a thing. And it certainly wouldn't get signed by Obama.
     
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    Well,,,,your honest....
     
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    Something that perhaps the OP never thought about, but I'll throw it out there.

    Socialism is supposedly slavery correct? Of course you never quite define slavery or how the public management of the ecnomy is could be slavery or relate to various dictatorships.

    What is capitalism? Freedom? Ha! What is working all of your life to simply enrich the wealthy even further? The top 1% of the US population own a vast majority of the wealth? What is that? The freedom to be enslaved to your supervisors supervisor supervisor?

    You give capitalism too much credit.

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    Because unless you agree with them you are against America and god.
     
  22. Ephemera

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    I don't know that we can find much to agree upon here. Every socialist government attempted in history destroys the first amendment in every facet as its first order of business. That is fact, but I have a feeling you'll try to disagree with it.

    We already have public ownership of the markets. You are talking about "government" ownership of the markets. That is also rapaciously counter to the constitution.
     
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    Socialism is an economic system, it has absolutely nothing to do with speech.
     
  24. Veni-Vidi-Feces

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    Wait a minute the Constitution ACTUALLY ACCOUNTED FOR ACTUAL SLAVERY?
     
  25. Sooner28

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    Isn't it ironic the man who is calling other people idiots misspells the word stupid? :p

    And you apparently need a dictionary. You are lumping things together that do not belong. Let me enlighten you. Socialism: A system of government involving collective or government ownership of economic enterprise, with the goal being equality of results, not merely equality of opportunity. Socialism is willing to use democracy to attain it's results, and the rights of free speech, a free press, etc. Communism: A system of government in which a single totalitarian party controls all means of production and distribution of goods and services. Most communists believe there must be an overthrow of the government, and that only one party should rule. No democracy. Fascism: A political ideology in which the state and/or race is assumed to be supreme over individuals. All people are submerged for the good of the state. No freedom if it interferes with this, and values like service, devotion, and discipline are promoted. The goal is produce an almost perfect human being.

    So as you can see, lumping them together shows you are clearly not paying attention to the meaning of the words. Before you call anyone an idiot next time, understand the actual meaning of terms.
     

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