Solar now accounts for over 50% of new electricity capacity added to the U.S. grid

More huge costs for the renewables conversion.
Electric Transmission Buildout Could Cost Americans Trillions of Dollars
By Bernard L. McNamee
At a time when inflation is making its tougher from families and businesses to thrive, imposing additional costs for transmission buildouts for special interests makes little sense. . . .

 

What's this one dated? 1990s?

Electrical Infrastructure upgrades must happen regardless of EVs. EVs are not the driving force behind that. As a matter-of-fact, EVs offer some potential interesting solutions to the problem.

First of all, EVs will predominantly be charged at night, when loading is low for public Utilities. There was a study done by the city of Austin, TX. If everybody switched to EVs, and charged at night, they would need no additional infrastructure.

Secondly, all those retired batteries can be moved to locations where they can be recharged and used for peak load distribution - basically a backup power plant. EV batteries, once they get down below 80% charging, are less effective in electric vehicles. But the still have 10-15 years of life as a power generating device, until they drop below 60%.

 

EV's are charged at night? Ok, let's go with that. Anything else go on a night? Heating, cooking dinner, bathing, watching TV's. Now multiply that by the million EV-nuts hope to sell and the probably is obvious. Oh, and the solar farms aren't gonna be much help because they'll be feeding all the other electric-only facilities, factories, etc.

 

Were you refuting the Austin study? Do you have a link from an actual electrical load study? In answer to your question, most of the activities you mentioned are predominantly daytime activities. How ridiculous that you would even make the argument. Many Utilities are going to a tiered rate structure, where night-time usage is charged at a lower rate.

 

Not talking about any specific study. Sorry I don't keep links to everything I read. Better guess again - I;d bet all lot of those studies weren't done with a significant portion of transportation is EV as are residences. I've seen comments that utilities may actually RAISE their nighttime rates because of the demand. AND the lack of local supply.

 

Of course you're not - you're just here to bad-mouth EVs. Meanwhile I will provide evidence and proof.

https://www.energysage.com/electric...ay-to-use-electricity-with-time-of-use-rates/



That's quite substantial - isn't it!

 

Highest cost 3pm - 12am - seems like that would coincide with most like charging at home times.

 

With a 220-Volt at-home charger, EV owners can easily charge up from less than an hour to three hours. Most EVs have programmable options for times of day to charge. If the EV is older, there are apps that help with this. So set it for midnight, and start tallying your savings!

https://www.nationalgridus.com/electric-vehicle-hub/Programs/Massachusetts/Off-Peak-Charging-Program

 

March 14, 2024.

 

At what cost? What will be the size of these recharging battery stations? Has an economic analysis been done? So you would have hundreds maybe thousands of these direct current lithium batteries in close proximity wired up in parallel providing a charging function - what could go wrong?

 

China does it now. The company takes EV batteries from around the world. They had them arranged on shelves, and they didn't seem to take up much space. They could also be used for storing renewable power. If you keep the atmosphere cool, there wouldn't be many problems.

 

What is the source for that? And why would China who is the world leader in recycling used EV batteries use them for storage when the materials in the batteries are worth ~ $2000 for each battery - even more with new US subsidies for recycling which occurs in the US. The Chinese will certainly be cashing in somehow on these subsidies. The Chinese Communist Party starts up ~ 2 coal fired power plants per day. They have no need for EV battery storage when they have fossil fuel power available on demand 24/7.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/dead-ev-batteries-turn-gold-with-us-incentives-2023-07-21/#:~:text=JB Straubel, CEO,future EV batteries.

It's happening already. The Chinese Communist Party is figuring out how to cash in on US subsidies

https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/il...f a village in,activist, told The Epoch Times.

 

I saw the information on a YouTube video. I looked briefly, and didn't find it. I'll try again later. But here in the US, a San Diego company is embarking on this same mission. Here's that video:



As far as the materials in the battery. Those are still recovered after the battery storage goes below 60%. From 60% to 80%, batteries can be used for energy storage purposes (renewables, etc). At 80% and above, batteries are good for EVs. Hope this answers your questions. I'm not as hateful of China as you. You mention Communism with a hateful connotation. I believe that any political ideology can be corrupted. I prefer democracy, but it can be corrupted too.

 

Your claim was that the Chinese Communist Party was using spent EV batteries for storage? Where is the evidence for that? The CCP is responsible for over 100,000 deaths due to fentynal overdose every year. And you are okay with that?

 

Wind started producing more than coal in Texas a few years back and only matter of time before it catches up with natural gas. Republicans in TX may pretend to their base that green isn't the future, but they know.

 

Tell you what. Copy and paste that "claim" of mine, along with the post number, directly below with no commentary.

 

# 111

 

FAIL - nothing about CCP

 

China is the Chinese Communist Party.

 

Yeah, and in Post 111, I never mentioned the "Chinese Communist Party". I mentioned "China". China has plenty of businesses that are not associated with the government.

 

The Chinese Communist Party runs Red China. Nothing happens in Red China without the approval of the CCP.

 

I see. You're the expert? Have you even been there? To say that the CCP micromanages "everything" is absolutely ridiculous. Besides, I didn't say that, and you should NOT quote me as saying that.

 

That’s not what I said.

You need to better inform yourself on the Chinese Communist Party.

 

And you need to stop quoting people incorrectly. I'm done with this. Feel free to get the last word.

 

Burying your head in the sand is not an intellectually honest thing to do. But it’s your decision.