Solving the refugee issue

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  1. haribol

    haribol New Member

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    The world is a common ground for all of us no matter where we hail from and which cultures we are in or the frontiers that divide nations. The point people must be allowed to live safely somewhere else. Today Syrians are threatened and their lives, properties are under threats and they want security since their nation could not secure their lives. Now so many are flocking to safer zones. We must welcome them no matter which country they come from and what religion they hold. Of course there must be intelligence agencies they must check whether they are terrorists or not. It is not humane to stop every Muslim from entering just out of that fear.
    America has always been a sanctorum for refugees and now it must keep it up to prove to the world that it is truly a country of humanity.

    Of course there is some fear and yet we must understand terrorists form a small number of people and we must use different intelligent to find out and for lack of our knowledge to say good people from bad people good people should not suffer.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no way to do that.
     
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    haribol New Member

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    This is unfortunate and this keeps human lots in jeopardy if one nation cannot be home to another nation.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It certainly is unfortunate, and if only there was a way of accommodating genuine refugees then we would probably be able take all of them in pro tempore. But the plain fact is that Europe cannot keep taking in millions of economic migrants as well, and that's why there is trouble ahead through sheer weight of numbers. Now they know they can come freely there is no way of stopping them.
     
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    Blinda Vaganto Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think America or Europe can solve all international crises by bringing suffering people in. There are 1,5 billion people living in extreme povery which is hardly any better than living in a war zone. Would you like to bring them all to America or in Europe?
     
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    haribol New Member

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    I do not much about Europe but America is benefiting from economic migrants and where America is now economically has to do immensely with the contributions made by the refugees.
     
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    But you are looking at only one side of the coin. The fact is these refugees are not sitting there idle on the allowance of governments. They are working hard and therefore contribute immensely to the development of the nation they take refuge in
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some are, most are not.
     
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    They have to make a living and also they have to keep up with the demand of their particular society by raising their living standards. They have to pay their Nichiren school fees and therefore most refugees are hardworking people.
     
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    I've read articles and watch videos on youtube that show very different story. That many of those Syrian refugees are not Syrian and not refugees. That they often act like a disapointed tourists and not so rarely commit terrible crimes.
     
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    Yes they do not commit crimes. Even if they commit small crimes as no race or ethnicity is free from criminals. But they should not be labelled as terrorists just because some others from their country were terrorists.
     
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    Where do you live? I don't know what 'Nichiren school fees' are.
     
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    It was the spelling error. I mean children's school fees
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where do you live??
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looks like haribol isn't going to tell us.
     
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    What? They've been at war over there for thousands of years. Why flee now? Why?
    These aren't soft American/European couch potatoes that suddenly found thier culture in the middle of war.
    Fight for your country or simply just die in what once was your country. Those are the choices.
     
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    Sez who? You?

    Link or it's not so.
     
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    There was a civil war in Syria. The war mongering Obama plunged the US in it, for no good reason other than oil rights. We should NEVER have been there supporting any side. It was the US that escalated the bloodshed there and as a result, it started producing potential terrorists who have become virulently anti-American.

    American lives is more important than self-serving ideology. Obama is playing a crap-shoot with these so-called refugees he created. He's willing to risk American lives at home over the possibility of allowing terrorists along with the refugees. Even if one in ten thousand is a terrorist, it's one too many. Time to temporarily halt all immigration from Syria, if not the entire Middle East.
     
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    What, you think that circa a million migrants who've arrived in European countries during the last 12 months have all become gainfully employed then?
     
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    The world has changed since we wanted the tired and hungry, and the welcoming embrace is no longer as warm. Islam has tainted it's followers simply by "Being" Islam and the welcome mat is stained with blood. America would love to welcome these people but cannot do so...it would be a self destructive act of compassion and the citizenry would consider it treason.

    It is unfortunate that Muslims have ruined their home and we wish they had not...yet, they did and we cannot allow them to do so here. It no longer matters how slight a risk they pose, the brutality of the risk makes it impossible to ignore.
     
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    I don't think he lives in the US.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Scandinavian, unless I'm much mistaken. I mean, he sounds very er, liberal. :roll:
     
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    Too late...they already are, and as a United States citizen I agree with it. We welcome most people in need of safely or help...we do not however do so stupidly, Ignoring the inherent risk posed would be incredibly stupid.
     
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    It is not every Muslim that poses threats. There are even Americans who pose threats in America. There are moderate and tolerant Muslims who live in harmony with the rest of other people. This kind of hostility to the rest of Muslims just because a a few turned up radicals is not inhumane. Let us learn to live in mutual understanding and cooperation with those innocent Muslims and America has a large number of Muslims and they are tolerant and have contributed to the development of America and if intolerance and antagonism grow this will pose a threat.
     
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    You must take care of yourself and of your family members, no doubt. But the truth is if we generalize this issue and want to wipe out Muslims from our countries this will end up disasters. Muslims in the US have their relatives all over the world. Is not their right to freely move? If you can prove all Muslims are terrorists you can pressure the legislative body in your country to pass a legislation to ban their free entries. Or else you cannot coerce your government to do something out of this bigoted sentiment. You will indeed fail in your cause.
     

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