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    PUBLIUS_INFINITUM New Member

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    "America"?

    Assad was sitting right there for 8 years of the Bush administration... not one finger was lifted in threat against Assad. What's more Assad was quite cooperative with the US in the US GWOT, as was Libya, Egypt, Qatar, Yemen... .

    Enter the Ideological Left... which is to say those who are wholly aligned with Islamic Terrorism... that set upon each and everyone of those nations having now set Hostile Islamic Forces in place of the longstanding US Allies.

    Understand... Nature precludes the means for one to simultaneously adhere to both the Thesis and the Antithesis... therefore natural law establishes that: THERE ARE NO LEFTIST AMERICANS!

    Thus, "America" is not aggressing the Middle East for a Pipeline... The Left in the US are aggressing US influence in the Middle East by promoting the enemies of the US, lending them aid and confort... in a time of war.

    I refer you to Article 3 Section 3 of the US Constitution: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. ...
     
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    So your point is that it's not America but leftist in america?
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WOW... despite many interruptions I answered the whole thing!!
     
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    Leftists in the US. America is more a concept, than a place.

    Leftists who are aligned with the enemies of the United States... Leftists who are promoting the interests of that enemy... Leftists who are lending aid and comfort to that enemy... in a time of war. Therefore Leftists in the US who are, as a consequence of their advocacies and policies... making war upon the United States, even as they have voted and successfully established themselves in power in the highest offices of US Federal Governance.

    So... yeah.
     
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    You know I am completely ignorant of political moniker and naming. So I had to look it up to get the context right

    So leftist are hopeless optimists wit unrealistic social views.

    And I'm guessing that the right is the complete opposite but just as unrealistic and naive.

    Like some old saying goes. Truth is often found someone in the middle.

    No wonder Indian believed in balance above all else.
     
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    Well, the Left writes their own definitions. The Ideological Left is little more than the embodiment of the long standing human desire for an easier, softer way.

    The "right" is not an Ideology, it is a philosophy, which recognizes, respects, defends and adheres to the laws of nature that govern human behavior...

    Laws which the "Ideas" of the Left... axiomatically reject, despite such being otherwise irrefutable.

    And that is why everything the Left does fails... where Leftist Ideas are the blueprint for that endeavor. Where anything the Left does is seen to succeed, the success is due to the principles applied which offset the inevitable failure of the Left's ideas.

    And that is why the 'Moderates' all believe in a 'mixed' economy... in a mixture of Right and Left policies... .

    This in contrast to there not being a single example of an endeavor have ever failed as a result of it having recognized, respected, defended and adhered to the laws of nature governing human behavior.

    In short, the 'Moderates', simply feel that "It's not Fair" to be: :eekeyes: "Right, all the time". :eekeyes:
     
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    That was wikipedia.

    To be completed left would be naive and stupid. Being completely right is equivalently so.


    Laws of nature though relevant only applies if you are challengedoing by nature to stay alive. Humans have evolved beind laws of nature and thus above its governance.


    Abovey all else, we are human. We know that virtually every divisive factor in our society are based on outdated and ignorant beliefs.
    What ever your nationality or religion, above anything, we are all human. And in this aspect we are equal

    I believe in laws of the nature more than most. Because of this I cannot conprehend how people try to humanize animals.

    But like I said, we are beyond animals. We shouldnt be squabbling over stupid things.

    If someone want to come here they have to abide by the law of the land. I care nothing for sharia law. To even mention it in a democratic country is an insult to everything democracy stands for. But that doesn't mean that I won't respect sharia law if I find myself under its thumb. Borders and boundaries should be respected, but never crossed.

    We must acknowledge that above all else, we are all equal human beings.

    As long as any one side think it's better than other, conflicts will ensue. Because power and superiority can only be accomplished on remains of your enemies.

    Haven't we moved on from such a false pretense when we chose to be a democracy instead of a monarchy?

    This right wing notion is a skeleton of the past, traped in its old ways, while the left wing is like a child in it naivety.

    Both are wrong. But one holds more hope.
     
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    Yeah... Leftist. I know... .

    LOL! I say here and it comes out ^ THERE ^.

    Now, I don't know if it's fair or not... but it sure feels good.


    LOL! Adorable

    It just NEVER get's old.
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you so much for reminding me of the good deeds of Iran. It is true, I have heard about Iranian guards fighting in Syria on Assad's side. It is actually much more... you spend a lot of money as well.
    My thinking has been that poor sanctioned and crippled Iran can't do much and wouldn't be allowed either. All I really know is how dangerous Iran is. All newspapers are full of blah blah, I suppose.
    Amazing! I had again no idea you were that active. All I heard how dangerous you are and for sure you are building the Atom bomb, and Bibi Netanyahu was threatening you with annihilation for ever and a day!!
    Truly amazing you are still there and speaking up! I admire your country! Seldom has a single country been so harassed and threatened and humiliated as yours.
    Sure, I've heard or read a little about that war in Lebanon. Was that also the time when Hariri got killed? That mystery has fascinated me and I have just recently figured out who did it... Israel and Germany!! Shocking to hear that about Germany. THEY should know better and keep their nose out of Israel's dirty business.
    Yes, that was terrible how they destroyed beautiful Libya and butchered Gadaffi. They committed a great sin and will face appropriate karma one day.
    At that time Russia just wasn't sure enough yet, if it had the strength to challenge the West. Now they did it!
    With "the end", do you mean a nuclear showdown?
    There Putin could hesitate, because the other side has plenty of nukes, too.
    I start to realize what a dangerous situation it is right now... one hardly dares to set foot outside!!
    Of that alliance only Russia and Iran have some power, but would it be enough to deter Israel and USA? Hardly!
    If only the EU would swing around and get on Russia's side, that would level the playing field.
    Like what?
    OH... are you hinting he might falter? It would be understandable, there is a limit how much pressure a human mind can take before giving up. I probably would have run away long time ago!:salute:

    I enjoyed talking with and learning from you!
    Till next time...

    Jazz
     
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    Sigh. Ignorant fools will stay ignorant fools. If we were still in the days of Martin luther King, you would be the racist one still clinging on to your old dying beliefs that were based on nothing but a made up notion.
     
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    Apparently...

    BUT!

    I think it's important that you understand that it is clear to me that you're doing the very best you can, bless your heart! And I mean that.

    Nature has always been kind to those who feel it's not fair to always be right, thus it's important to mix equal measure of wrong into all public policy, so the Left can feel like they have a legitimate role to play in governance.

    And I think that nature does so, as a means to give the substandard elements a fightin' chance to learn. Thus promoting to the extent possible that humanity will always have a soft smushy cushion to fall upon... isolatin' the purveyors of the viable ideas from the bumps and bruises along the path of evolution.
     
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    We are better than them. They are infirior. Its only natural for the strong to feed on the week. It's the laws of nature.

    I'm sure those are the exact same thoughts that the Romans thought of their slaves, before they collapsed

    What countless nobility thought before monarchy collapsed. What the slavers thought before slavery was abolished, what Natzis thought before they got destroyed and what racist though before it became a none issue.


    Time and time again history has proven that the far right mentality is utterly wrong.

    Though far left mentality is nearly just as wrong, I say the best place is in the middle.

    There is a pride in preserving identity and multiculturalism is an unrealistic illusion. A word of grey melded mess is much too boring.

    A world full of vibrant unique colors is much better and beautiful.

    Yes I'm referring to cultural identity.
     
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    LOL!

    Seriously?

    Cause and Effect? Natural Law governing Human Behavior.

    Rest, Motion, momentum, entropy, chaos... all natural laws governing human behavior.

    Look... I've enjoyed our exchanges. But this is a subject that requires some basic sense of objectivity. Absent that, the discussion is pointless.

    It's akin to discussing time with a Leftist. Or honesty... with a Leftist. Principle... with a Leftist.

    Ya might as well be reading Darwin to a dog. Sure, they've benefitted from the subject... but they've no more means to understand it than the mitochondria from which it also benefitted and which is also has no means to understand.

    LOL! I know... and to be sure, that's the cutest part.
     
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    So I'm guessing you are a racist. Ok
     
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    Mornin Jazz. [​IMG] Correction.....the Saud are buddies with the Democrats and Neo Cons.

    Yes, I caught that piece yesterday. Which is why Lavrov again re-emphasized that Assad has the Right to be in any election.

    That's whether BO peep, the French, or the Brits say otherwise.
     
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    Good Morning to you, too! yo2.gif
    Well, aren't the Dems and Neo-Cons the rulers of USA? Why correct me?

    O.k., Lawrov is right, Assad should stand for re-elction, IF it comes to it. But who are his opponents?
    Terrorists? They have no business in a future Syrian government.
    Here is an interview with Assad where he explains his position on that. And I agree with him fully.
    There are according to him over 100 nationalities fighting in his country. Should they have a right to govern the country? That would be unheard of.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/presid...is-not-serious-in-fighting-terrorists/5495472
     
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    Well they aren't the rulers.....truthfully. That doesn't mean they aren't a problem.

    I wouldn't know who Assad's opponents are. As you are correct there.....any Sunni, are terrorists at this time, and or backed by the MB.

    Which wont count the Sauds puppet nor Qatars.
     
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    Inorite?
     

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