Something I bet you have thought about...

.... NOT thought about Air guns don't have a muzzle flash.
Much lower pressure and lower velocities and compressed air doesn't make any visible light signature.

Even a lowly 22 short will have a muzzle flash.

You can throw a 500 grain piece of lead with air and have no muzzle flash whatsoever.

 

An air gun is certainly a much cleaner bore.
Using a deflagrant as a propellant, is bound to produce a dirty bore.

It's kind of like the hippie dippy electric vehicle air gun, of gunpowder fired cars or something....

I could get on board with some cleaner technology like that.

 

We had an antique air gun we used as kids - don’t faint but we used green elderberry berries to decapitate grasshoppers. Don’t think it did the barrel much good

 

Air guns have come a long way since then.
If you live in a country without overly restrictive rules about air guns....

You can now pick up an air gun that can kill a deer or a hog at 200 foot or better.

I have some ideas about air gun designs of my own.

And when I think of air guns I think of big bore airguns witch are 30 caliber or larger

 

No smoke either.

 

And a much cleaner bore. Fixing to head out to my shooting range for an afternoon of inexpensive and relatively quiet fun.

 

No traceable blowback residue with airguns as well.

 

That was a great movie. I believe that was a captive bolt gun similar to the type used in slaughterhouses.

Did you know there is a federal law prohibiting the federal government from classifying airguns as a firearm?

So the gun grabbers can keep their mitts off of air guns.

Of course in other countries their governments classify air guns as firearms which is completely stupid and contrary to the actual definition.

 

Anybody here ever make beef stew?

If you are going to make beef stew the first thing you need is a boltgun.

Speaking of bolts, I been thinking of taking up crossbow hunting for deer. I bow hunted for about six or seven years in my twenties and never stabbed a deer but I never took a shot either and I still had a hell of a good time. Too crippled up now to hold draw on my recurve but I can **** my friend's 190# Excalibur crossbow with a rope and pulley system.

I'd rather hunt ducks, but I go gun hunting for deer every season just because my friends always invite me to go.Last season I took a big doe inside of 20 yards with a 7.62x39mm. I passed two little bucks and another two does out of that elevated stand last year, all inside of 30 yards. I should be able stab one with a crossbow from up there if I get one.

But that's another silent, violent, no flash weapon. They are supposedly okay on deer to fifty or more yards, and my friend has target shot at 75 yards and kept it on a paper plate. No bang, just a bit of a "thwump!"

 

The state of wisconsin classified spring-loaded or pneumatic devices as firearms. I know they did in the 80's, I don't know if it's been repealed.

 

What about giant rubber bands or enormous clothespins capable of being used as lethal weapons? Let's get it all out in the open.

 

Yup. Slingshots too.

 

And we have got to take the straws away from these children !!! We can't be having the children making dangerous projectiles and shooting each other in the eye with spitballs !!!

 

I bought a Gamo Wildcat a while back in .177. Fun for plinking and certainly effective for rabbit and coyote.

 

Poor grasshoppers. My policy is don't shoot it unless you're going to eat it.

 

Some years back I shot a rabbit from about 15 ft with a 22 break barrel spring piston pellet rifle.

It was a broadside shot and the rabbit jumps straight up in the air about 5 ft and it was dead when it landed. The pellet went in one side and straight out the other and directly through his heart.

I took it home and put it in the Crock-Pot with some vegetables and had stew

 

I used to have a Beeman-Webley Tempest in .22. The Tempest was an spring piston pistol, muzzle velocity about 400fps with a 14.5 grain pellet. It was plenty accurate enough. Very accurate for a barrel cocking air pistol. But it is little bit too light for killing rabbits in the garden. On a beer can it would penetrate one side of the can but not the other at about 10 yards.

I also had a Crossman ten pump pistol in .177 that had a muzzle velocity of about 550-600fps with a 7.5 grain pellet. I forget the model. I could put down rabbits from 20 yards away with that thing.

 

I have a couple webleys great training pistols since the spring makes them jump like a firearm. My favorite for whacking vermin though is a FWB 65-once a world class target pistol-it is recoil free side lever that shoots around 525