Spain The Kiss Controversy Is Ruining The Women's Team Remarkable World Cup Win!

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  1. JimfromPennsylvania

    JimfromPennsylvania Active Member Past Donor

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    This whole controversy of the President of the Spanish football Federation, Luis Rubiales, kissing a member of the Spanish Women's Soccer team, Jenni Hermoso, without her consent is a very sad development for the Spanish people. For a fantastic achievement the Spanish Women's team winning the World Cup which should be bolstering Spain's reputation, that should be endearing the Spanish people to the rest of the world it is clouding and distracting from this remarkable sports performance. Let's get what is right out there Mr. Rubiales shouldn't have done it Ms. Hermoso has rights and she shouldn't have been kissed on the mouth without her consent. Nevertheless the public commentary on the incident has lost perspective on the matter. It was an incredibly proud moment for his country Spain winning the Women's World Cup and Mr. Rubiales was caught up in the excitement of the moment the kiss was the product of this excitement there was no sexual gratification or intent to belittle Ms. Hermoso on Mr. Rubiales part which is typically the case in a sexual assault or sexual harassment case. Further a description of the kiss would describe it as a peck, it wasn't long, and if one looks at Mr. Rubiales's behavior during the entire incident fairness would describe it as celebratory and trying to convey to Ms. Hermoso that her and her team's achievement was an outstanding performance and something which the Country of Spain is immensely proud over! It is rather unbelievable the places this controversy has gone it has been reported in the media that Spanish prosecutors are opening up a criminal investigation in this matter, as a culture have we really become this mixed up why don't we get back on the path of good judgment there is women out there that are victims of sexual assault and of sexual harassment where a man is conditioning a women's employment on her providing sexual favors Spanish prosecutors should be spending their time and resources on these serious matters and do Spanish prosecutors really want to open up a pandora's box here because if they are good prosecutors they want to treat all victims equally meaning all Spanish women who have been forcibly kissed against their will get to bring criminal charges against the actor forcing the kiss!

    Fairness would dictate that Mr. Rubiales not be forced out of his job as President of the Spanish Football Federation over this, there was not the mens rea of a crime. But unfortunately fairness is sometimes not the entire consideration in a matter unfortunately this situation has become a politically charged matter it has now been linked with women gender discrimination and abuse in Spanish society and throughout the world. Ms. Hermoso could act in an outstandingly virtuous manner and come out and publicly say even though what Mr. Rubiales did was wrong the public controversy is hurting women's soccer in Spain and what the sport offers Spanish girls and women in their life and so I am content to let the matter end with Mr. Rubiales ninety day suspension. Another alternative outcome could be that the Spanish Football Federation create an executive position over Mr. Rubiales's President Position like a Chief Executive position so that women soccer players in Spain know that this guy they don't like as President isn't the top authority over them it is the Chief Executive of the Federation. The Powers that be in Spain should try to force some type of compromise on this matter quickly because although Spain won the World Cup Tournament this Summer, it is not winning the good media coverage campaign over that success and this result doesn't have to be the end of story here!
     
  2. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    this was the kiss

     
  3. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Compromise needs to come from both sides. The only reason this has spun in to such a massive issue is Rubiales response and the implicit support he has received from a lot of people within Spanish football officialdom. Jenni Hermoso has been put in an especially difficult situation in the context of her making any kind of further public statements since the Spanish Football Federation has threatened to sue her for defamation! Not a lot of compromise on show there.

    The kind of "compromise" you're talking about would have been perfect viable at the outset but it was never even considered by Rubiales or his supporters and it is they who have dragged Spanish football in to the mess they now find themselves in. At this point, I don't see any outcome that won't result in him resigning or being fired, but he'll only have himself to blame for that.
     

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