Speaking the TRUTH gets you labeled a "racist".

I wish I could agree but look at the attitudes on this board.

Now my colleague is not an old woman - but what happened to her still hurts that at one time she was not considered human

I wish too that this was the only story. Imagine living in a land and you could not admit you were an Aussie - and living in fear that at any moment you would let something slip that betrayed what you were and opened the doors to vilification.

There is a story about Kath Walker - an early activist and forgive me for not using her indigenous name but I fear I would misspell it, she told a story of meeting Bob Menzies, he offered her a drink before talking with her and she pointed out that had that happened in Queensland he would have been jailed.

The things that happened happened in living memory - I have spoken to members of the stolen generation, only they were not placed with nice white households but rounded up off of their parents and forced to live in dormitories, in sight of their parents but unable to speak to them

 

Sorry but no, as you see that is not what you wrote at all.

 

If you cut the "stats" you posted down to reflect % of population you will find i am right.

 

Please don`t try to make the entire Nation wear your hair shirt.

 

Why don't you - you are the one claiming the government statistics are wrong

 

If that is what it takes to try and get some bloody respect for the indigenous people of Australia then that IS what we should do.

Nasty derogatory terms such as commonly used on this forum do NOT show respect but instead show the continuing racism and division in our society.

Maybe what we need to do is wear that hair shirt so we look at ourselves more closely and see that we have NOT left the problems behind in the past - the problems are still here with us today and will live through to tomorrow and beyond unless we acknowledge our racism now.

You expect people to act a certain way - they will. It is a very well known psychological phenomena called " Self fulfilling prophesy"

http://her.hepg.org/content/1k0624l6102u2725/

And if you believe you are not racist then sit down and write a list of attributes you associate with indigenous people and count how many are positive

 

"You expect people to act a certain way - they will. It is a very well known psychological phenomena called " Self fulfilling prophesy"

By that token, no one is responsible for their actions. We could be here for another 40K yrs without going anywhere.

 

If you looked at the link you will see it is one of the fundamental areas of study within educational psychology. It is extremely powerful and probably helped you get where you are today. Conversely it can and does hinder and is the real reason racism should be stamped out completely

I won't turn the ardent racists around here - neither do I really want to. They by their very actions put so many people off and in some ways do better than I ever at making people examine themselves - even if it is only "By Gosh I am not as racist as THAT am I?"

But what I would love to do is make people pause to think about self fulfilling prophesy and how it can and does colour your perception of other people so that instead of thinking "This person is a _________ they are not worth shaking hands with" you can instead start thinking "A person from another country/culture - what delightful difference in how we view the world can I learn from them?"

 

WHEN aboriginals start doing something WORTH RESPECT i will be the one of the first to show it. Up to this point they as a race have done nothing WORTHY of respect.

 

/Thank-you for being such a good example of what I was talking about

 

It was a rather strange post, wasn't it?

Even for efjay.

 

This is akin to what I`ve been talikin about for years. 'Doogooders' who deny, or condone dysfunctionality, crime, violence and self sympathy by aborigines are perpetrating the conditions for their demise, and encouraging the growth of behaviour that causes them to be held in contempt by the general community. The shallow, self serving PC line is the worst enemy of all aborigines. What is needed is truth and honesty, lies and deception only sweep the problems under the carpet.

To get stuck trivia like abreviations etc is like mowing your lawn while your house is burning.

 

Why is it that someone who tries to "do good" vilified?? I guess it is because people WANT and excuse to "do bad" and with that is an unconscious acceptance that what they are doing IS bad. Bad for the community, the society and for themselves.

So, any excuse to continue to bad mouth another race, and that in itself has it's own psychological agenda.

http://www.csupomona.edu/~jsmio/401/powerpoints/racism.html

 

We need to be honest on these issues, aborigines need real solutions, not dizzy denial and the self feelgood exercises of PC dreamers. The hellish lifestyle that too many aborigines are trapped in won`t improve without the truth being recognised.

 

The attitudes of a few on this board do not represent the millions and millions of Aussies that would not even cross paths with indigenous people. Be honest. The vast majority in OZ have nothing to do with indigenous people, they don’t treat them any-which-way.

Doesn’t anyone ever meet people that were dropped off, given up or taken for their own good? Seems this happened just as much as people being “rounded up”. Yet the “Stolen” bit is all you hear about.

 

In my experience, what you just said is completely false.

 

Battery hens have no idea of what`s happening outside the poultry farm.

 

I wonder where you would get this incorrect idea from. do you yourself live in an isolated area?

 

So you think the vast majority of people in OZ actually have dealings with indigenous people. The vast majority are treating indigenous people badly. That’s you take on it?

Meh, I’ll call you on it.

Me-thinks you speaketh schizen.

 

Show me how you think it is incorrect.

 

Aside form my workplace I encounter indiginenous people all the time in the course of my normal activities, I dont frequent any particular places that the majority of the population dont.

 

This is exactly the same for me, which is why I thought Oxy's statement was a bit strange.

However, I have noticed that when I visit Melbourne/Victoria there seems to be very few Aboriginal people on the streets.

So, I checked some stats (2006):

• WA - 3.8% of the population is indigeneous (approx 78,000 people)
• Victoria - 0.6% of the population is indigeneous (approx 31,000 people)

I was quite surprised.

 

And do the vast majority of people that frequent these places "treat" indigenous people a particular way? Or do they just go about their business?

All I am saying is the vast majority of people in OZ don’t treat indigenous people any way. They have no need/desire/occasion to do so. They are just normal people that go about their lives.

 

I cannot recall a single person I've met who 'would never cross paths with indigenous people'. To argue that 'millions and millions' do is absurd. Stop kidding yourself.

 

I truly truly wish that were true - but all too often you get the sort of "treatment" that certain members on this board have been meeting out. Using derogatory terms and descriptions of people. These are the sort of people who in real life will sit in a Bar and if they see anyone they think even looks indigenous will call out things like "Hey Coons!! Raped any kids lately?"
http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/racism.html

Racism exists and all we can do is simply show the racists that their attitude and language should never be tolerated