Speed of light

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  1. Yant0s

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    Is there any way to increase the speed of light so it can be equal too or faster than the speed of sound?

    Perhaps we will find a way to bond light particles to sound particals together. Then fire the bonded particals at a mega structure such as the moon .

    Use the moon's gravity to increase the incoming particals speed then quickly break the bond before impact with powerful lasers fired from earth. Thus making the light particals temporary travel faster than the speed of sound.

    Possibly the energy released by the light particals impacting the moon traveling faster the speed of sound can be harnessed to generate free electricity that can be stored in batteries and transported to earth to solve the works energy crisis.

    Just an idea. Can anyone crunch the math and work out if this is a viable cost effective renewable energy solution.

    So hopefully it will be cheaper than wind farms and we can stop using carbon fuels.
     
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    Hi. Everything you have written here is wrong. The speed of light is 300,000 km/sec. The speed of sound is 300m/s. The other errors in your post follows
     
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    Yeah that was my take too.

    The speed of light's really interesting but the approach Yant0s is taking seems flawed.
     
  4. WillReadmore

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    OK, this includes a common mistake about the speed of light.

    There is a fundamental speed limit in this universe due to how our universe works.

    Light travels at that speed in a perfect vacuum. It travels at other speeds in water or in air or whatever. So, light does not always travel at the cosmic speed limit.

    Even if there were NO light, there would still be the same cosmic speed limit.

    Nothing you do with light could possibly change that. We just call the cosmic speed limit "the speed of light" because that's how fast light travels in a perfect vacuum.
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I Do Not
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  6. WillReadmore

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    Today, there is just as much solar energy per unit area hitting the moon as is hitting earth. So, we could build a solar farm on the moon.

    But, we have no way to ship lunar electric energy to Earth that isn't WILDLY more expensive that just collecting solar energy on Earth.
     
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    I think you've miscalculated and your math is out. The sun is a much greater distance away from earth than the moon is.

    So it's much more economical to harvest energy and store batteries on the moon rather than on the surface of the sun.

    Interesting plan non the less :)
     
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    300.000 kilometers per second is not as fast as 300.000 miles per second.

    A mile is a greater distance than a kilometre. It's a common error made by a lot of people. Let me explain.

    Light travels 300 kilometres in one second. Sound travels 300 miles in one second.

    Which basically translates to the speed of sound is faster, because a mile is the greater distance.
     
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    Exactly... This is why you bond it to the speed of sound, to give it that extra speed boost.

    That coupled by the moons gravity pull further increases the lights speed creating unique conditions for it to be able to break the sound barrier.

    I'm so so glad I have found someone on the same intellect wavelength as myself and that just gets it !

    :)
     
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    Uhhh, failure, failure.

    The Moon revolves around the Earth. About a quarter of the time it is closer, a quarter of the time farther away. And about half the time just as close.

    What, you think the Moon is a fixed distance between the Earth and Sun?
     
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    300 m/s is 300 meters per second. Not miles, meters. If they were saying miles, they would have used mps.

    But if you want to know, the speed of sound is 767 mps.

    Also, as light is a is a wave and not a physical particle, it can be bent by gravity, but not otherwise influence by it short of a supermassive black hole. And even then, any theoretical speed such would gain by passing close to one would afterwards be lost by the theoretical pull of said gravity as it escapes from a near pass. So net effect, nothing.

    Your entire post and claim is not even bad sci-fi science.
     
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    The the Sun is definitely not closer to the earth than the moon quarter of the time. Your math is definitely out on this one.
     
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    Potatoes and Patatoes.

    Will actually check your math on this one but let's just assume you're right on this one and sound is the fastest thing in the universe traveling at 767 mphs.


    This is why the light partial needs to attached to a sound to increase its speed to the speed of sound.

    It's well known that sound speed increases inside water. This is very convenient as it is how we attached light particals and sound particals.

    Simply they are captured and encapsulated in a particular of water. Which could possibly be done by turning it to ice the moment the sound partical and light partical pass through at identical times.

    Difficult but it can be done!

    So there we have it. The sounds particals speed increases because of the medium it's captured within , water (h20 to be more scientific).

    The sound powered vehicle will drag the light partical into speeds faster than it is supposed to travel naturally.

    The convent thing about this process is that it can easily be fired at the moon.

    Once close enough the moons gravity pulls on the vehicle thus further increases its speed. Making the vehicle including the light partical travel FASTER than the speed of sound.

    With the help of lasers fired from earth and the moods atmosphere. The water partical can be melted on re entry to the moon.

    Thus realising the light partical that is traveling temporarily faster than the speed of sound at this point.

    This is the precious moments that the light partical needs to be harvested and the massive amounts of energy that's been created by the light partical that's traveling faster than the speed of sound.


    Similar to a sonic boom but 1,000,000,000 more potent (because it breaks the rules of the universe and the light partical actually bends the fabric of the universe temporary because of the speed ). In basic terms a huge amount of energy will be created by the light partical breaking the sound barrier.

    Very simple to capture and store this massive amount of energy been been created (from nothing) on a megastructure structure such as the moon .

    Many many ways to do this, as fellow student of science I'm sure you would agree.

    Didn't want to go too deep into the physics but felt like I needed to explain it to you because you gave me the impression that you did not fully understand the science behind it all.
     
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    I hope this is all a joke but I'm beginning to think that you are serious! BTW how does the LASER catch up with your sound beam if sound is the fastest thing in the universe?

    How many different personas have you had in this forum?
     
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    Yes - there is a way. If you attach a flashlight to you head and you will start running with the speed of 10 miles/hour, the new speed of light will be:

    new speed of light = original speed of light + 10miles/hour = original speed of light

    Yes, we can you use your system to create cheep electricity.
     
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    This is a brilliant question and you clearly have a high intellect!!!

    Basically you need to fire the laser before the particals are fired at the moon!

    Sounds a little backwards but if you do the math you can calculate precisely when to fire and predict where the laser will hit the particals right before they strike the moon.


    Alternatively although not as power efficient but more forgiving in regards of room for error you can conunulsly leave the laser firing permani at the moon.

    You simply have to aim the particals at the exact location you want it to strike.
     
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    Exactly!!!!

    But you will never reach the speed of sound doing it this way. So a cool experiment but it has no resl.wotod value sadly.
     
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    This thread HAS to be a joke. The amount of science illiteracy here is making my head hurt.
     
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    You clearly misread my post. I simply said that one could collect solar energy on the moon using solar panels. So, we can have energy on the moon.

    But, there is no economic way to ship energy from the moon to Earth.
     
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    Einstein and others have shown that the cosmic speed limit is defined by the relationship between mass and energy. You can't change or exceed that, as it is built into the universe in that way.

    We call it the speed of light only because light travels that fast in a perfect vacuum.
     
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    All you need to do is GOOGLE IT. The speed of sound at sea level is approximately 1,100 feet per second. SOURCE

    SOUND is movement of AIR.

    LIGHT is movement of PHOTONS (EMR).

    You can’t “bond” air movement to electromagnetic radiation.

    And what the hell is “mphs”???

    767 meters per second is 2,516 feet per second. Sound is about 1,100 fps.

    Your entire concept is nonsensical!
     
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    No the speed of sound is 343 meters per second, not 300,000 kilometers per second. It is only about 1/3 of a kilometer per second. Sound is the turtle and light is the hare.
     
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    Light is faster than sound by a LARGE margin.

    This is why, during a thunderstorm, lightening always comes before thunder. It is also why you can calculate the approximate distance to the source of the lightning but counting after seeing the lightning and stopping when you hear the thunder. This is because no matter where the source of the lightning you are going to see it at the same instant it happens but because the sound is slower you are not going to hear it at the same time.

    https://www.weather.gov/safety/ligh... count the number,a safe place while counting.
     
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    Ok, this silliness was handled. Now, regarding light, I’ll make a statement that sounds just as silly but I can prove it and so can you if you’re just honest about it.
    Ok, here it comes…..

    There is no color “out there”. Color is created by you and it exists only in your mind/brain.

    Comments?
     

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