Step-by-step: obamacare open enrollment

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  1. Lunchboxxy

    Lunchboxxy Well-Known Member

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    With all the fearmongering and hyperbolic misinformation being thrown aroun concerning the implementation of the affordable care act, I though it would be nice to change it up and offer some information for those interested in the exchanges opening up on October 1.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/26/health/obamacare-open-enrollment/index.html?c=homepage-t&page=0
     
  2. Agent_286

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    Thanking you for an exceptionally timely article that is loaded with information for people in every walk of life and it will be such a change for Americans to have a medical plan that is not hideously overpriced, incompetent, greedy, one that will be there if you go out of state, and one that does not continually change what they will pay for and what they won't.

    Obamacare is going to be a real blessing for families with children as that can bankrupt you pretty quickly even if both husband and wife work, and older people who take a lot of pills will do well also, with government help.

    It is quizzical that while the president is planning to help people get reasonable, affordable insurance that will enable them to live longer and healthier, the republicans in Congress are insanely trying to gut his plan.

    Thanks again for giving members of PF more information on this vital and much needed affordable medical plan for every American.
     
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    Mac-7 Banned

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    Unfortunately millions of other Americans will pay more for their health insurance and get less healthcare.

    Millions of workers will be denied full time jobs and limited to 29 hours a week.

    All because of ObamaCare.

    So this woman is benefiting at the expense of someone else.
     
  4. nom de plume

    nom de plume New Member

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    Exemptions:

    Some Americans will be exempt from the health insurance mandate, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

    These are people who can't afford it: For example, people who make so little they don't have to file a tax return are exempt.

    People who are in this country without authorization are exempted, as are members of a federally recognized American Indian tribe who are eligible for services through an American Indian health care provider and people with certain religious beliefs that conflict with acceptance of the benefits of private or public insurance.

    People with certain hardships are also exempt; so are people in states that don't expand Medicaid.

    And members of Congress.
     
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    Taxcutter New Member

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    ...and all this paid for by higher taxes (or greater deficit spending).
     
  6. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    People need to list the employers that cut hours and stage boycotts against them. Those companies are domestic enemies and should be treated as such.
     
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    This was pushed to give the 30 million who were uninsured insurance. The problem is that even the President has admitted that 30 million will be uninsured.

    All he will have accomplished is a 3 card monte scheme where his legislation will pick which 30 million that is.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Have you seen all of the people who go to ball games? They are loaded. And taxes need to be increased to fund the operations of the world's sole super power. If we want to be #1 we should live like it.

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    Are you saying that it's better if 60 million are uninsured instead of 30 million?
     
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    Without ObamaCare, 30 million were uninsured. With ObamaCare 30 million will be uninsured. All that has happened is the uninsured have been shuffled. There is no 60 million.

    The original 30 million was bull(*)(*)(*)(*) to begin with, however. After deducting the wealthy, the invincibles and the illegals, we actually had only 7 million uninsured. The liberals (*)(*)(*)(*)ed over 97.8% of the population to help 2.2% of the population. The sad thing is that no matter how concerned one might be for those who are uninsured, there will always be upwards of 5% falling through the cracks.
     
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    It's this type of garbage that the GOP loves to use as a scare tactic.

    First of all, if a company is going to deny people full time jobs because of healthcare, then the fault is on the company. If they would rather pay out millions in bonuses then they are the shady pricks who should be criticized, not the law that is offering insurance to millions.

    If a family sees their premiums go up (and premiums have been going up every year way before Obamacare) than they would now have the option to shop for new coverage in a competitive market.

    This woman, and MILLIONS, of other Americans were previously unable to BUY health insurance. I have no idea why offering millions of Americans the opportunity to PAY for insurance is a bad thing.
     
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    Yeah, yeah.

    They should boycott Obama, Pelosi and Reid instead.

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    See post #11 and remember Pelosi telling us libs had to pass ObamaCare to find out what's in it.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tell that to the Teamsters, UPS, Home Depot, Many Colleges, and some Local Governments.
     
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    Braun-Gross and her husband have tried to get insurance before, but they don't qualify. They both work hard, and they're college educated. But because of some pre-existing conditions, including Braun-Gross' weight, insurance companies haven't wanted their business.


    Some folks attitudes and posts are absolutely sickening. Whine they are benefitting at the expense of someone else, while insurance companies rip off everyone at the expense of everyone. Absolutely disgusting, how greedy people think.
     
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    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    Yes, a companies Board of Directors, who have a fiduciary responsibilty to their stock holders should criminally neglect their duties to have a group hug with the President and push their company towards financial insolvency in order to make leftists feel better about passing a steaming pantload of legislation that should never been passed in the first place. If you don't want businesses to react in an all too predictable manner, then stop passing terrible laws which force them to lay people off.

    Re ipsa locquitor. If the bill wasn't passed, would these companies be dumping employees to get below the 50 employee limit or would they be reducing hours to 29 per week? Of course not. So is it the employers fault or the legislators fault.
     
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    The regulations weren't in the bill and it's the regulations that count.
     
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    "open enrollment" LMAO

    More like forced enrollment
     
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    In your opinion should all traded companies use sweatshop and offshore labor to maximize shareholder profits?
     
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    Of course not. Sweat shops are illegal in most states and breaking laws is generally not profitable. Furthermore, if the general public finds out about sweatshops, the company loses market share. As for offshore labor, it is what companies have been doing for a very long time, mostly to avoid the cost of record high taxes and regulation. Is it possible to provide a better business climate so that offshoring is just too expensive to consider?
     
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    I haven't the slightest idea how that even remotely addresses anything I said.
     
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    Yes. Let's all feel sorry for the employers for having top take a hit in their profits so the people that bust their butts working for them can have health insurance. Let's support the rich forcing their low level employees who need money most to take the hit instead.


    ^^^This is what it seems like I'm hearing when I hear republicans speak on this issue. Anyone else hearing that?
     
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    Lunchboxxy Well-Known Member

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    False.


    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/25/fact-check-congress-staff-are-exempt-from-obamacare/
     
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    I get it that the woman has trouble getting health insurance.

    But punishing other Americans who can provide for themselves is not the answer.

    ObamaCare may or may not help this woman but will surely hurt many others.
     
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    "Have you seen all of the people who go to ball games?"

    Taxcutter says:
    A lot of people who can't afford to go to ball games will have to pay higher taxes so moochers can have free sex change operations and partial birth abortions.
     
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    If I wasn't able to pay for an exchange and had to go into the hospital in an emergency would refuse to sign the "I will pay" form, if they refuse to admit me invoke their legal duty to treat me noting I have no ability to pay and if they don't treat me will threaten to get a lawyer and sue the hospital, every medical provider there sitting back not doing their duty and report them all to their licensing boards. Its pretty clear they have an obligation to be treated there is no obligation I agree to pay I will say go to the state government they can give you the money since they should have expanded Medicaid.

    I can get into the Exchanges and so will do that it better than my alternative than not paying anything and the bill going to the insured and taxpayers that way with decent medical care with a doctor I can avoid going into the hospital.
     
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    Do you think that let's the three stooges off the hook?

    Obama, Pelosi and Reid created the law and then turned of to the idiot bureaucrats to finish the destruction.
     

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