Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’

Stephen Fry has denounced God as “utterly evil, capricious and monstrous”, if he were to exist.
The comedian’s attack on the notion of a deity will be heard on an Irish religious affairs programme on Sunday night.
A brief clip of Fry on RTE television’s The Meaning of Life on Sunday has already caused as storm on Youtube with over 2m views even before broadcast.
On the short clip, Fry is asked by veteran Irish TV presenter Gay Byrne what he would say to God if he died and had to confront him.
In his imaginary conversation with God, Fry says he would tell him: “How dare you create a world in which there is such misery that is not our fault? It’s not right.
“It’s utterly, utterly evil. Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world which is so full of injustice and pain?”
Pressed by Byrne over how he would react if he was locked outside the pearly gates, Fry says: “I would say: ‘bone cancer in children? What’s that about?’
“Because the God who created this universe, if it was created by God, is quite clearly a maniac, utter maniac. Totally selfish. We have to spend our life on our knees thanking him?! What kind of god would do that?”
On how to explain the wonders of the world, Fry then launches an another attack on all seeing, all knowing God creator.
“Yes, the world is very splendid but it also has in it insects whose whole lifecycle is to burrow into the eyes of children and make them blind. They eat outwards from the eyes. Why? Why did you do that to us? You could easily have made a creation in which that didn’t exist. It is simply not acceptable.
“It’s perfectly apparent that he is monstrous. Utterly monstrous and deserves no respect whatsoever. The moment you banish him, life becomes simpler, purer, cleaner, more worth living in my opinion.”
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/feb/01/stephen-fry-god-evil-maniac-irish-tv

Kudos to Fry for speaking up against this crazy God person who creates life in order to torment it with pain and suffering. I came, after many years, to the same conclusions about God--a selfish insecure twit who uses the power of creation to produce a planet full of humans so they can worship him and who he will punish relentlessly if they chose not to do so. What kind of an omnipotent being would care about such things? Did he have a bad childhood? Was he picked on by the other omnipotent beings? The way he's described in the Judeo-Christian tradition, he sounds like a kid who'd shoot up all his classmates in school if only he could get hold of a gun.

 

I just posted a link to that video on another thread only about an hour ago! I guess great minds think alike.

Obviously a maniac like their "god" is a made-up character....he's all-loving, but he kills/tortures, and is....JEALOUS!

Here's the best short description of their invisible friend (who I used to believe in as a child, by the way): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovWs8JQN7FE

 

Ask a Bible Believer if they would worship a God that commands the death of children and babies...

and if they deny God would ever do that?

Fling 1 Samuel 15:3 at them....and watch the excuses and rationalizations.

 

The funny bit is that you or I demonstrated the same personality as god, we would be labeled as a narcissistic sociopath.

I would describe any character who planned the Holocaust, and did nothing to stop it, as evil, monstrous, and a maniac.

 

If on the off chance some invisible guy in sky created me I'm not going to be pissed. Instead I'm going to be grateful that I was given a chance at life. But hey, some people just need to scream for attention.

 

Why do you have such a hard time handling the fact that there are people who called the bluff of christianity and don't buy into the nonsense of their god being good?

 

Who says I'm having a hard time? His rant came off as nothing short as a cry for attention. Why does me pointing that out bother you?

 

You are clearly having a hard time handling it since you defaulted to using insults against his person rather than addressing any actual argument.

Anytime you want to discuss the OP rather than simply bash people, you know where to find me.

 

Again, how does me pointing out his cry for attention translate to me having a hard time?

 

I am a non believer and why do you have hard time handling if someone believes? Like it is your business?

 

As I said; anytime you decide you actually want to bring up any arguments relating to what Mr Fry said rather than just bashing people, you know where to find me.

 

I was never looking for you to begin with. And I already did bring an argument. It was in my first post in this thread.

 

It's strange, isn't it, that it's so incredibly obvious that the christian God is such an altogether evil character, yet christians still manage to convince themselves that he's good. I mean, the kind of mental acrobatics that takes is simply beyond me. It's a degree of cognitive dissonance of which I'm not capable at all.

 

That's how I see the god that is described in the Bible--just a creepy guy crying out for attention. Maybe there is something to the whole "made in his image" thing.

 

Could be. But normally when people start ranting like that they just come as attention starved.

 

I read somewhere that the reason may be because, usually, the idea is introduced to us as a child. We tend to believe things unquestioningly in our youth because our sense of logic hasn't fully developed yet.

 

Well, God did supposedly create an afterlife that consists entirely of telling him what an absolutely super-duper dude he is for eternity.

That just so happened to be my greatest gripe with christianity when I was still a believer. I mean, their description of heaven sounds more hellish than...well, hell.

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That is the only explanation I can think of for why the one single most important factor determining which religion you belong to is which religion you were born into.

 

Well, I suppose openly stating an opinion on anything is just one form of getting attention. At least it's not the whole, "Worship me or I'll punish you for eternity," kind of attention seeking some people cry for.

 

I dunno, religious adults don't believe in the Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus and both were introduced to them when they were children.

 

Well, sure, but neither of those guys have an entire community based around the idea that they are real. That's another part of the explanation of possibly why people believe so readily in religious ideas. There is an entire community set up to support those beliefs. People spend a lot of time investing in that community, through participation and financial contributions. Once a person has poured their heart and soul into an idea, it's not so easy to just walk away from it.

I think most people have an innate desire to be a part of something larger than themselves, and organized religion is one easy way of fulfilling that need.

 

There is nothing wrong with belief. Often beliefs get human beings through tough situations when all seems hopeless. There is something to be said for that.

If a human has innate desires to believe in something larger, it must be part of nature and something we are born with. The belief in something larger and more powerful must mean there IS some innate knowledge of something omniscient or at least all powerful. Maybe the belief is what is important to the on-going development of the human species.

 

You're absolutely correct. I have beliefs, and I'm certainly not an atheist. I do, however, question the idea of a judgmental creator god. I find it absurd. It seems to fly in the face of how I'd imagine an all-wise, all-knowing being to behave.

 

Stating an opinion is one thing but just pointlessly ranting and attacking someone's belief for no apparent reason other then just to say it is another.

 

I don't blame God because he is a fiction of man. I blame man because he is an imperfect being.

 

Not Original
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge
Plato, as the speaker Timaeus, refers to the Demiurge frequently in the Socratic dialogue Timaeus, c. 360 BC. The main character refers to the Demiurge as the entity who "fashioned and shaped" the material world. Timaeus describes the Demiurge as unreservedly benevolent, and hence desirous of a world as good as possible. The world remains imperfect, however, because the Demiurge created the world out of a chaotic, indeterminate non-being. Plato's work Timaeus is a philosophical reconciliation of Hesiod's cosmology in his Theogony, syncretically reconciling Hesiod to Homer.

As a kid, I could not help but notice how "God" is so petulant. Prone to rages, selective forgiveness (David/Saul) and most confusing of all - requiring exhalations, salutations and prayers. Why ?
If one is "good" and obeys the Lord's laws, why the FLUFF?

Conclusion: I am a spirit trapped in this physical world. If I check out (suicide) I get a bad karma.
My hope is to accomplish the physical tasks before me and when I check out, not get recycled.
My earliest memory is a baby in a carriage looking out at a group of folks and feeling,
"I don't want to be here!". It is my earliest memory.

The Lord, we term God
is a petulant demiurge who is our Dungeon Master by entrapment in a physical world.

Yes I mean it!
I figured it out as a kid.


Moi
It ain't easy being clairvoyant


r > g

And "He" created too.
Talk about imperfections of a demiurge
and excuses of creation being from a chaotic universe​