Steve Forbes Endorses Rick Perry

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  1. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    forbes is a very rich guy, a flat tax by perry that a middle class man can handle will be really easy on him with millions in income.

    currently the rich employers are holding onto trillions in cash and are not creating jobs so if they get more money in tax breaks they will hire more employees
     
  2. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    agreed ..i like his views on illegals
     
  3. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    During presidential debates, they usually have a lot more time to explain their policies, etc. That format would work better for Perry. Yes, I have no doubt Obama would be the glowing speaker that he is. However, I think most people listen to and watch him now thinking, "what a total bs'er."
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    That could change in a heartbeat. Along with well-known economic advisor endorsements like Steve Forbes......IF someone like Sarah Palin also came out to endorse him, he'd be sitting pretty again. I'm also getting the impression that Rush Limbaugh, who has miliions of listeners) supports Perry too......although he won't come out and say it yet. Bottom line is....we have a long way to go. I'm not counting anyone out just yet......out of the top 3 or 4 anyway.
     
  5. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Ya'll keep saying that...but you must be listening to the mainstream liberal hype; because his view on illegal immigration are strongly conservative and Republican. Here's the truth of it from someone who is a Texas resident:

    1) Perry knows it is the responsibility of the federal gov't per the consitution to protect its borders and knows that they have not done so. As president, Perry would do something about the border. More than once when Obama came to Texas to raise liberal money for himself.....Gov Perry has begged for the President to meet with him to discuss the border problems. Obama has refused. Perry was left with running out to the airport to hand him letters---which Obama promptly handed to his aides. As president, Rick Perry won't do that. He won't blow off the Governors of the border states and refuse to even discuss the issues....as he did here on one of his visits where he refused to meet with Perry on the border issues:

    "Gov. Rick Perry's meeting at the Austin airport with President Barack Obama on border security lasted a mere 34 seconds, and Perry had to hand a letter on the issue to presidential adviser Valerie Jarrett because Obama declined to personally accept it.
    That did not dissuade the governor from inviting Obama to come back to Texas and tour the border with him to get a first hand look at what Perry describes as the threat from Mexican drug cartels.
    "Look, he's got the letter. I suspect he'll read it. I hope he responds to it," Perry said. "This is way past partisanship or politics."
    Perry said Obama's decision to send 1,200 troops to the entire border with Mexico was inadequate, particularly since only 286 are coming to Texas.
    Perry said he would like a substantial meeting with Obama to discuss the need for 1,000 National Guard troops until 3,000 Border Patrol agents can be trained to take over.
    "We need a substantial amount of boots on the ground. We need the technology in the air. The predator drones. The other technologies we've talked about: night vision equipment, cameras, motion-detecting equipment," Perry said.
    The governor said immigration reform is "a waste of effort until you secure the border."
    http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...Obama-to-tour-the-border-with-him-1609206.php

    2) Gov. Perry tried to get the "ban on Sanctuary Cities" added to a bill during a Special Session of Congress this summer. One Republican Committe Chair refused to add it to a bill only because he believed it would jeapordize the passing of the entire bill. (It had passed the Senate just two weeks earlier and Duncan believed the two should be separate bills....and they basically ran out of time.)
    But bottom line is: Gov Perry supports the banning of sanctuary cities in Texas.

    3) Gov Perry pushed for and got the "Voter ID" legislation passed....which now requires Texas voters to have a proper picture ID in order to vote.

    4) Perry opposes the policy of the WH to suspend deportation proceedings against tens of thousands of immigrants who have committed no crime other than violating immigration law. Perry believes that leaves the door open for rampant illegal immigration and that we need to do that first.

    5) Perry supports "strategic border fencing." He does not support trying to erect a fence along the entire border and it's not feasible to even attempt it. Drones for surveillance, more boots on the ground, strategic fencing---are the things he believes will secure our borders. Then and only then can we move to what to do about those already here.

    There is nothing "liberal" about Gov Perry's views on illegal immigration.
     
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    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    in state tuition, open borders, no fences
     
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    You forgot the eminent domain deal allowing a Mexican contractor to build a tollway from Oklahoma to Mexico using American tax dollars..

    pretty cool.. Not.

    Quote...
    Our caveat: Look beyond all rhetoric, consider all legislative bills proposed about eminent domain and remember that eminent domain is about more than just the recently redubbed Trans-Texas Corridor.

    State officials tell us that 97 percent of land in Texas is privately owned, which means this issue resonates with many. If you have a mere backyard, it ought to resonate.

    You can be forgiven for wondering if Perry did a remarkable political conversion the past few days, given his announcement last week that he was fully backing reform of eminent domain laws, despite vetoing legislation providing just that in 2007.
    http://corridornews.blogspot.com/2009/01/eminent-domain-still-in-rick-perrys.html

    Flip flop ?
    You betcha...
     
  8. JP5

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    But see--you are wrong. Perry is not for open borders. He supports strategic fencing--where such a fence will work. He also supports increase of drone usage and more boots on the ground.

    On the in-state tuition for our state colleges-- that's a state issue and our state believes it's better to have these "residents" educated and paying taxpayers instead of on subsidies. The vote on that was almost unanimous by both Republicans and Democrats. Only 4 legislators voted againt it.
    And after all--they are paying for their own educations. So-- that's not a liberal idea at all.
     
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    is who does Peewee Herman endorse? That will change the outcome of the election.
     
  10. submarinepainter

    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://campaign2012.washingtonexami...ial/study-most-new-texas-jobs-went-immigrants

    he is pro illegal period, illegals should not get a break on anything unless all Americans get the same deal
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    But they do. Illegals get free public educations here. You are aware that in each state, no illegal is denied entry into our public school system....right? They are not even asked what their status is. They are not even asked to prove they are legal. They'd be sued if they did.

    We have a lot more illegal residents in our state than you do. We'd much rather they be educated and working at careers than living off the state and federal subsidies. That was our choice. If you'd rather keep yours on federal and state subsidies, that's your choice.

    It's not allowing someone in-state college tuition that is a draw; it's the FREE public education they had for 12 years prior to that that is the draw. It's why they bring their kids here in the first place. And whose fault is that? The federal government whose job it is to secure our borders. When they graduate from our public high schools, they are called "residents." And that's usually all one has to prove in order to obtain in-state tuition. When my husband and I were first married, we were Texas residents...and he'd been going to Oklahoma University for 3 years already, paying out-of-state tuition. But when we got married, set up residency there, we were able to get in-state tuition there at that time. Oh, and BTW, they didn't ask if we were legal or not. In fact, no where on the form was there such a question. I doubt any state college has such a question.

    Oh and BTW, illegals get a break everywhere in our country. In both public educations and hospital care and many other services. It's why they come to start with. Until we have a president and lawmakers willing to do something about it.....it will continue.
     
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    If you support Perry..you still have time to switch..thank God for that.
    Romney would love your support.
    :)
     
  13. submarinepainter

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    and Senor Perry is the one , I do not see it , what I see is Arlene Spector in Cowboy boots and his arm around an illegals shoulder
     
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    Birddog.

    just a heads up..If and when you get a chance to visits one of the most beautiful states in America..Realize Hawaii charges 2 sets of prices..one for residents..and another for non residents.
    Wear that Magnum PI special flower shirt and see for yourself.
    The most obvious is inner Island flights... but can reach down to prices charged for pizzas.

    So resident and non resident equality or lack of does exist..But I do beleive Mass. does not give illegals a special rate to attend college that other residents and non residents do not receive.
    I could be wrong..but highly unlikely.:trout:
     
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    that is not what I said , someone from Oklahoma should get the deal before an ILLEGAL . Perry is a democrat
     

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