Steve Schmidt, Republican, was John McCain's campaign manager.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, MM's mission statement is essentially to fact check the lies and misrepresentations of fact from right wing media. So, again, you really ought to stop with the Progressive Machine crapola and refute the message instead on impugning the reputation of the messenger.
     
  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, he thinks Drumpf is wrecking the GOP. He makes no secret of that. Take your fingers out of your ears and listen to what he says. Folks on the Right are critical (rightly so) of students keeping conservatives from speaking on college campuses. Don't ignore what Schmidt says or dismiss him, make the counter argument.
     
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    McStain is 3 of the 6 things you posted , so your wrong.
     
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    It's not silly. I know it's a term I use, but it's the easiest way to describe to remarkable "machine" the alt-left has put together to spread Progressivism. Billions of dollars, dozens and dozens of groups, media outlets, websites, think tanks, polling operations, public and private labor unions, on and on. It's a remarkable propaganda machine, so it seemed the best way to describe it.

    I invite you to read through the fall investment conference agenda from the Democracy Alliance's meeting from just a few weeks ago. When one see's who is involved, the only appropriate description is that it's a well oiled ideological machine, hence, the Progressive Machine.

    The agenda can be accessed through a link found in the article linked below.

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/resi...headline-lefts-biggest-dark-money-conference/
     
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  5. Lee Atwater

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    CNN contributor Rogers: Fox News' Gregg Jarrett comparing the FBI to "the KGB or the Stasi is absolutely offensive"

    Unless you think MM or CNN edited the tape of Jarret's comments here is an example of someone on Faux, their own "legal expert" making an outrageous accusation. It's no wonder why folks on this board parrot the same outrageous accusation they hear on Faux. It is nothing less than propaganda and completely vindicates Schmidt's observation about Faux.

    https://www.mediamatters.org/video/...s-fbi-are-not-only-offensive-dangerous/218774
     
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    What you fail to realize is it's pols like McCain (neo cons) that are wrecking the party, he campaigned on barrycare repeal and went against the GOP. There isn't a war anywhere he doesn't what to get involved with. Too bad you can't see how anything that comes from McCain or his surrogates are dismissed by most of US.
     
  7. Lee Atwater

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    Dismissed, but not refuted.
     
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    Facts are facts. You should embrace them wherever they take you, rather than run to "facts" created to feed your bias.

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/leaked-docs-expose-media-matter/
     
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    My dismissal is refuting what that nevertrumper said. I refute just about anything McCain or his crony says. Not to long ago McCain was doing interviews on Fox, they quit using him so I can see the butthurt coming from his surrogate.
     
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    I read through the article. Not surprisingly it feeds your bias but fails to do anything else. It certainly does nothing to substantiate that sensationalized headline. Which leaves me wondering why you think it would be persuasive since it is a shiny example of what you claim to abhor.
     
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    But you didn't refute a thing.
     
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    LOL

    In your opinion...................
     
  13. Lee Atwater

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    Know what isn't my opinion? What Jarrett said on Faux, comparing US law federal enforcement agencies like the FBI to the gestapo on a cable network pretending to be a credible source of news.
     
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    I think you're mistaken. This is clearly your opinion.
     
  15. Lee Atwater

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    That happened. The tape proves it. It's blatant propaganda. Please do continue to make false equivalences between something like that and mistakes in reporting by all media outlets cuz it exposes how bankrupt your argument is.
     
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    Gosh. What can I say to that other than the words came out of Jarrett's mouth. Not a nutjob guest. A nutjob who is the network's permanent legal analyst. The analogy is not based in objective reality.
     
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    Fox News really is like a state-run network, just lacks the actual status of being one. Rarely does Trump ever get attacked, or held accountable by any of the personalities. The network really tries to cradle Trump. Doing their best to slander the Mueller investigation, shift the focus over to Trumps vanquished opponent, unfortunately 40% of Trumps flock listens to exclusively that network, and takes it as truth.
     
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    While this was posted elsewhere, it pretty much exposes the issue some people are trying to deny.

     
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    What issue?
     
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    Watch the video, and then ask your questions.
     
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    I've seen it. I also saw other Repubs engage in similar questioning. I could have sworn I saw Joe McCarthy standing on the sidelines.
     
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    That's brilliant. While some cover their eyes, others see alarming actions taken by the FBI. Everyone should be concerned. The fact that isn't the case speaks volumes.

    I see the ghost of J. Edgar Hoover floating on the sidelines.....
     
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    My eyes are wide open. But this is nothing more than a smear campaign to discredit an investigation getting closer to Drumpf that increases in volume the closer it gets.
     
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    LOL

    Thank you for re-expressing your opinion on the matter, but it wasn't really necessary.
     

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