Stop the "Climate Change is Real" brow beating

I recently saw the Al Franken Funny or Die video on climate change. It can be viewed in the link below.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/8f...-1-senator-al-franken-takes-on-climate-change

Beating dead horses is annoying, and that's exactly what this is. There is no debate, even in the public, about whether or not climate change is real - only 12% say that it is not (per a 2016 Yale study). For reference, 14% of Americans believe that Bigfoot is real (per a 2013 PPP survey). There are more people who think that Bigfoot is real than who think climate change is not.

People aren't rejecting the proposition that climate change is real. What they're rejecting is the open "do-anything" approach, and some specific approaches. Polls have shown public opposition to the attempts of some to do things like, "put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business." But polls have also shown support for some policies. The Yale study found 82% support funding research into renewable energies, 75% support regulating CO2 as a pollutant, 69% support setting strict CO2 emission limits on certain power plants, and 66% support for requiring utilities to produce 20% of their electricity from renewable energy sources.

This moronic brow beating that "climate change is real" doesn't accomplish anything but petulant virtue signaling.

 

At this point I think the issue is when people try to blame everything on CO2. The bees aren't dying because of CO2 they are dying because of pesticides, but I guess believing other wise is good for round up.

 

Lol...And yet, we have a potus that calls climate change a hoax.
You know that his deplorables will parrot the same ignorant nonsense ad nauseam, so reminding people that climate change is real is needed to counteract the intransigent stupidity coming from the deniers.

 

Left wing drivel. What the President and many citizens object to is the notion that the changing climate is man's doing, and that humans can do anything to prevent it from happening.

If you want to discuss the science of climate, we can do that.

 

The only constant in climate is change. As more scientists look into the current dogma, more are rejecting the unthinking fealty to the new religion.

 

Nothing annoys me more than stupid push polls!

And yes, that is a push poll question because no one is putting "a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business".

Those coal corporations are going out of business because they are run by idiots who were too stupid to diversify when their customers started looking for alternatives.

Those CEO's should have asked what alternatives their customers were looking at and invested in those companies and thus have had a larger product range to offer their customers. That is capitalism 101 and obviously those CEO's are dumber than doorknobs.

So let's not conflate the stupidity of coal corporation CEO's with idiotic push polls trying to disparage the science of global climate change.

As far as "moronic brow beating" goes that is almost entirely coming from the climate change deniers. If they stopped trying to ignore reality there would be no issue given that 97% of scientists are in agreement.

The Tobacco special interests tried to pull the same stunt when it came to disparaging the science that proved the connection between smoking and cancer. Now it is the Fossil Fuel special interests trying the same disinformation scam only it is not working any better than the failed attempt by the Tobacco industry.

The facts are irrefutable and yes, we agree that the whining should be shut down and the work of putting together a sustainable future for our children and grandchildren needs to go ahead without any further hindrance

 

People aren't rejecting the proposition that climate change is real. What they're rejecting is the open "do-anything" approach

There is no "do anything"approach

But there certainly is a right wing and GOP "do nothing" approach that Franken is trying to deal with

 

It's only natural that over millions of years our climate is changing. It's also only natural that we can't stop it or change it to our liking. It's like going on a crusade to make the winter sunlight longer in Reykjavik, Iceland.

 

Nonsense. The change we are seeing is far more rapid than any "natural change" we have seen in the past, and we are responsible for that rapid increase.
And yes...we CAN ....STOP....making it worse and allow it to become :natural" again,

The longer we wait the more expensive that will be and the less chance that it will be successful

 

Worried about the sea rising then move OFF the beach areas and build in the mountains. OR buy a houseboat.

Climate change is real, the earths history shows multiple ices ages and thaws, but how much man contributes is the issue.

 

Humans can do nothing to prevent climate change. The left is using climate change as an excuse to move ahead on their agenda (income redistribution, favoring certain industries, one world government).

 

Do try, at least to keep up. As noted (Yale study) folks aren't denying that climate changes. It does. Obviously. Hence the reason there isn't, now, a mile thick sheet of ice covering NYC. Obviously, the climate changed sufficient to melt through that ice, and make NYC the modern cesspool that it now is. I doubt, except for the most fervent of AGW acolytes actually are unwilling to accept the climate does, in fact change.

And yet, that is the inconsistency here. For all of the liberal catterwailing, about the climate changing, they seems dutifully unwilling to actually allow it to change. And isn't that ironic? Think about that for a while. For folks who "believe" in the idea that climate changes over time, they do seem amazingly pejorative trying to dictate the climate around them remain static, unchanging. It's humorous even, except that it is quite sad for some to so publicly rail against the world around them changing.....

 

More horse hockey. Your understanding of climate comes from a complete lack of historical climate knowledge and a belief in the 'campfire phase' of the dogma, who can tell the scariest stories.

 

So what, you think any polls on hypotheticals are "stupid posh polls"? lol

 

The future's eco-commies will promise the future's Gruber's Stupids they can 'fix' the Yellowstone Caldera Problem (YCP) if, and only if, central planners are given more money and more power.

 

Third example of leftists demonstrating abject fear of change. They're afraid of Amazon and its disruptive innovation, they're afraid of AI, and they're afraid of changing climate.

Progs. The ideology of fear.

 

I guess you are unaware that the vast majority of the planets inhabitants live near the ocean.

What will the world be like when that many people have to move rapidly...pretty ugly

And then there's the loss of all that property and wealth

How could anyone with a brain make a post like that?

 

We absolutely CAN stop dumping BILLIONS of TONS of CO2 into the atmosphere. And if we address that effort soon enough it CAN have a desirable effect

 

Two things.

(1) You cannot say that if tomorrow we reduced our CO2 dumping down to zero, that that change will result in any change to the climate changes we experience. Your statement "If we address that effort soon enough, it CAN have a desirable effect" is insufficient to justify the costs. When you can say "If we address that effort soon enough, it WILL have a desirable effect", you let us know...

(2) A big problem is that folks like you want the United States to pay for these changes. China and India are generating a good portion of today's CO2 problem, yet those countries don't need to worrying about making these changes or paying for these changes. Why should the United States put itself at a competitive disadvantage if the results in the aggregate are not ensured? So your first sentence "We absolutely CAN stop..." needs to address who the all encompassing, non specific "we" are.

 

SO you're solution to a problem no one with a brain disputes...is to what...do nothing and hope?

 

My solution to the "problem" of a naturally occurring process that we have very little control over? Yeah, do nothing and figure things out as things happen. If you think we can prevent the next ice age from happening, or the sea levels from changing, you're the one suffering from false hopes, not me.

 

Just as it is inarguable to claim that the climate is changing, it is also inarguable to claim that humans are playing a significant role in that change or that we can do something to limit our affects on that change.

We can measure the isotopes of the CO2 in the atmosphere and compare that to the isotopes of the CO2 located in ice cores. The current CO2 concentration increase is largely being driven by the burning of fossil fuels.

We can measure the concentration of the CO2 in the atmosphere and compare that to the concentration, over time, of the CO2 in ice cores. The rate of CO2 concentration increase is roughly 50-100x the natural rate.

We can theorize, measure, and analyze the potential variables that cause natural climate change: volcanoes, meteors, orbital mechanics, solar intensity, CO2 concentration, etc. And we can eliminate the natural variables because, in the past 100 years, they have changed in such a way as to make global warming less likely to occur or they have increased in such a small amount that they do not explain the current warming trend.

As for our impact and the solution, we know that our production of CO2 is the primary driver of the current climate change. Therefore, we can limit our production of CO2 in order to reduce our effect on the climate change. This has the added benefit of making countries less energy dependent, providing cheaper energy, and providing health benefits.

 

At one time people, scientist also, thought the earth was flat. Now people say the climate is changing and it's our fault. Well if we can control climate why don't we set up the climate we would like for all continents. Yeah, the entire earth could have a climate like Hawaii. Where do I donate to the cau$e.

 

No, I consider the polling question and from that determine if it fits the definition of a push poll!

Are you claiming that wasn't a loaded question in that poll?