Study shows Obama clearly to blame for border crisis!

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  1. Marine1

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    I posted at least twice where Obama admitted when taking office he changed the way the deportations were counted. He now counts as being deported those caught right at the border. That wasn't done before/

    Obama was claiming 5 years ago the border was secure. Obviously it isn't and wasn't.
     
  2. Marine1

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    I guess broken promises don't mean anything to a lot of you. I have asked several times to show me how making all these people citizens will solve our illegal problem once and for all. No one has tried to step forth and tell us. That's because it won't. It only fuels the problem futher and we all know that.
     
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    The facts never enter into an Obama-holics brain, the only say what is fed them and actually believe this president who has been exposed as a liar time and time again. You are correct in how Obama has changed how people turned around at the border, and calling them deported

    http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...bbs-obama-administration-manipulated-deporta/

    The recession and increased border resources are partially credited for the decline in returns, as is the shift in policy.

    "To me, the thing that really stands out with the lower number of returns is fewer number of people are getting apprehended at the border in the first place," said Matt Graham, a Bipartisan Policy Center immigration analyst. "(Obama) has fewer opportunities to return people."

    Removals are highest on an annual basis under Obama, says Theresa Brown, Bipartisan Policy Center director of immigration policy. But if you factor in returns, Bush indeed outpaces Obama.

    "If you want to say that he’s removed more people than any other administration, then that’s true," Brown said. "If you want to say he hasn’t actually expelled more people than any other president, that might also be true."

    People should be more precise so we know exactly what they mean by "deportation," Brown said. "It’s the difference between getting off with a warning and going to court."
     
  4. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    [video]http://americanactionnews.com/videos/harry-reid-claims-the-border-is-secure.html[/video]

    Listen to Harry Reid lie about our border.
     
  5. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    [video=youtube;clYe4q0foYc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clYe4q0foYc[/video]

    Look at the signs telling us how safe our National Park is here in Arizona

    You all know how long ago this happened as she pointed her finger at Obama. Notice that one sign is made out of paper, so you know it wasn't that long ago. So how safe is our border again?
     
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    How appropriate that a democrat leader is such a consummate liar!
    He leads by example.
     
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    When you throw the truth at the Left they haven't a come back. They know damn well what we're saying is the Truth. But they'll break their neck trying to blame it on Bush and Republicans. Obama will leave office blaming Bush. He will never take responsibility in what mess he has caused.
     
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    All you have to do is look at the graph and it refutes itself. Those aren't border crossings. Those are unaccompanied children being apprehended, not crossing. That is a graph where they willfully fall into the hands of authorities.
     
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    Playing semantic games refutes nothing. Crossings, apprehensions....it doesn't matter when it comes to what the article is talking about.

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    Obama is just trying to sway voters. Looks like it has backfired on him. The truth has gotten out about how this disaster is his own making. The chart shows that.

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    Harry Reid has lost his mind and Nancy Pelosi is right there with him.
     
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    Sorry, but children going to border patrol agents is not border crossings. Those aren't semantic games. They are just facts.
     
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    Those are stats about children. My link is no opinion piece. Since October, Boehner has moved nothing towards immigration. I challenge you right now to prove otherwise. If you cannot, that means it is hardly an opinion piece.

    And again, that graph of yours proves nothing of Obama and his immigration failures. It is simply a graph of children walking "TOO" the border. That's it! Obama or anyone else can't stop children from walking up to the border. Your Op has no connection to blaming Obama by showing this graph. It's totally ridiculous! This is prime example of someone who refuses to deal with common logic. The graph itself "SAYS UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN" It isn't that hard to figure out those kids aren't trying to cross without assistance from authorities.
     
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    It's a game that the illegals play. As a parent, I would never allow my kid to walk to the border not knowing what would happen to them. They know we will care for their own better than they do. It's another way for obama to say "it's about the kids"...BS..It's about changing the face of the voter. He could give 2 ()()()()() about those kids, it's all about him and his secret policy on how to get more illegals in this country. Why not send the kids back? Why allow anyone who wants to drop their kids of at your front door of your home and expect you to have to take care of them. We have enough hungry homeless kids that are our own in this country. We should take care of our first and foremost and let the illegals deal with their own problems. Your problems are not mine and my problems are not yours. Its up to me to fix my own situation just as it's up to you to fix your own
     
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    Fox News....Study?

    Now that's an oxymoron if I ever heard one.
     
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    They have to cross the border to get the agents....derp!

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    Look a little closer dear, these stats are provided by the government. Fox is just reporting them.
     
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    Your link is an opinion piece with no facts that are meaningful.

    Trying to blame Republicans for Obama's pen and phone use is played. No one is buying that crap anymore. The facts show Obama is to blame here.
     
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    The fact is, these kids aren't trying to sneak into the country. They are crossing the border, sitting down and waiting for the Border Patrol to pick them up and you know it. They have been told and led to believe by Obama's actions and the words of you Liberals, that they can come to America and won't be deported. That Obama will make them all citizens. That BWK are facts and you know it. Why can't you at least be honest about it?
     
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    I think California's governor Jerry Brown deserves a lot of heat for this as well. California's TRUST act or something similar contributed heavily to this whole thing. It's very hard to get deported from California these days.
     
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    Would you rather get lies by MSNBC PT? It's been proven that they are the least trusted news source. Fox is the most trusted.
     
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    California: Sanctuary Cities, CA. DREAM Act, Illegal Benefits ...
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    May 13, 2012 · California: Sanctuary Cities, CA. DREAM Act, Illegal Benefits, and a $16 Billion Deficit


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    Jul 05, 2012 · California lawmakers are considering a new bill that could create a sanctuary state for illegal immigrants seeking protection from Arizona’s strict ...
     
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    Tell the people in the study that.. Its why i quoted it..... Let it sink in...
     
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    Libs don't care about illegal aliens.

    The more the merrier as far as they are concerned.

    But not blaming Obama is vitally important to them.
     
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    When FOX News reports something is not Obama's fault - then that is news.
     
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    A new intelligence assessment concludes that misperceptions about U.S. immigration policy – and not Central American violence – are fueling the surge of thousands of children illegally crossing the Mexican border.

    The 10-page July 7 report was issued by the El Paso Intelligence Center (EPIC), which according to the Justice Department website is led by the DEA and incorporates Homeland Security. Its focus is on the collection and distribution of tactical intelligence, information which can immediately be acted on by law enforcement.


    EPIC is not fox news... Try again. Its (*)(*)(*)(*)ing sad you dont even attempt to discuss the article.
     
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    Nothing ever has been or ever can be President Obama's fault. Heck, he only learns about things on television. President Truman is remembered for "The Buck Stops Here" and for President Obama it will be "If you like you health insurance" but it should be "Not my fault."

    And the leftist media destroyed what little credibility they had believing Ms. Lerner and parroting AG Holder's whining like it's news.

    Saying President Obama is not responsible for the flood across the border is as believable as Ms. Lerner's hard drive.
     

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