Sue anyone not wearing a mask

Reckless endangerment is a crime consisting of acts that create a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person. The accused person isn't required to intend the resulting or potential harm, but must have acted in a way that showed a disregard for the foreseeable consequences of the actions.

Does not wearing a mask show disregard for foreseeable consequences? Beyond a doubt it does. So remember anti-maskers, the next person you encounter might be lawsuit happy and take everything you own as a consequence of you recklessly putting their life at risk. And rightfully so!

It is time to start suing people or even filing criminal charges.

 

No it doesn't. If I don't have covid and I don't wear a mask you are not in danger. Thank God we have a constitution so when tyrannical nut jobs try to force me to do dumb **** I can tell them to go pound sand.

 

You going to sing this tune when Covid is under control about endangering people with unmasked influenza? Or are you OK with me giving you a an influenza induced heart attack because I didn’t wear a mask? Misinformation has created a bunch of authoritarian monsters.

 

How would you know that you don't have Covid?
Unless you have been getting regularly tested or have been self isolating you have no idea whether you are infected or not.
Caring about people you come into contact with is not dumb ****. It is empathy, a lack of which is one of the signs of being psychopathic.
It's not all about you and your rights, it is also about the rights of others not to be infected by you.
Is it your right to open fire in a crowded space spraying bullets in all directions? No? Then how is it your right to spray the coronavirus in all directions in a crowded space?
It isn't.
With rights also come responsibilities and if you go out into crowded spaces without doing what you can to prevent contaminating people with the worst pandemic since the Spanish flu you are indeed opening up yourself to a charge of reckless endangerment.

 

I'm 86. I've had two heart attacks and I've got COPD. Covid would be a death sentence for me. If you came into my area and refused to put a mask on would my shooting you be considered self defense? (Nothing more than a wild assed fantasy I've had)

 

I would.
Influenza is indeed a serious disease and mask wearing during flu season is an idea well worth considering.
I'm not happy working with people who have nothing more than the common cold.
Anyone who thinks they should be able to spread their germs around the workspace because they don't want to lose a day's pay should IMO be forced to pay the lost wages of anyone they pass their illness to.
Actions have consequences and if that means having to compensate others for the outcome of your selfish behaviour then so be it.

 

How would that work?

 

I understand people going to work knowing they are sick sucks. But asymptomatic influenza can kill just like asymptomatic Covid. What @HereWeGoAgain advocates is really masks in public forever if we are intellectually honest about it. That’s bizarre to me.

 

Not forever, during flu season however would save many lives and spare billions of dollars from lost production due to sick leave from catching the flu.
What I don't understand is how wearing a small piece of cloth over your face has been allowed to become so politicised. It's such an easy thing to do at very low cost or inconvenience to the wearer.

 

How do I get standing so I can sue Nancy, DiFi, or Newsome? How about Garcetti? Or Cuomo/s? how about that? I can get rich just on the hypocrisy of those on the left who feel so entitled that their own restrictions don't apply to them.

 

Well, people have different ideas on what’s easy and hard. I designed a life where social distancing is easy. For some it’s impossible. What about diet and exercise? How many people would not ever get the flu, mask or no mask, if they lived a healthy lifestyle. Living a healthy lifestyle isn’t hard for me. But I don’t have the right to tell others they can’t drink soft drinks or they have to walk 8 miles a day—even though doing those things would save more lives and productivity than masks ever could. Why should I have to protect people who aren’t willing to protect themselves. Kind of like not giving liver transplants to practicing alcoholics. Same principle.

 

To start, let me say that I always wear my mask in public. I do believe that, along w/ frequent hand-washing, it lowers my chances of contracting Covid-19 or, if I'm carrying it, the risk of my spreading it to others. That said, if nothing else, wearing a mask is a sign that one is not willing to potentially put others' health at risk, regardless of one's personal beliefs; that is, it is a gesture of courtesy to others, just as not doing so could rightly be taken as a rude demonstration of disregard for one's neighbors. While authorities have in the past been, & will in the future be, proven wrong on occasion, none of us has a BETTER insight to know otherwise, right now. So our wearing a mask is an indication that, when our community is facing a trial, we are willing to be a team player.

As a random aside, does anyone think that, in some part, the animated negativity over mask-wearing could have to do with an association between this type of covering & the veils worn by women in MIDDLE EASTERN, MUSLIM societies?

P.S.-- The idea of someone suing non-mask wearers is, of course, nonsense. First off, reckless endangerment is a criminal, not civil, charge, I believe. No damages could be awarded without that recklessness having led to actual injury, i.e., one would have had to develop Covid. But then, being able to prove from whom you caught it, seems all but impossible.

 

I'm sure that I don't need to tell you that masks are not about protecting the wearer. They are a common curtesy towards others.
Someone with an unhealthy lifestyle endangers no one but themselves.

 

As if the US didn't already have enough ridiculous lawsuits.

Any judge that would allow a lawsuit like this to proceed is just engaging is judicial activism, practically trying to create what amounts to legislation when that is not their job or proper role.

How about we start suing people who have the sniffles if they spread it to their work colleagues?
Sue parents if their kid comes to school sick and some other child catches the flu?
Maybe sue the school, sue the employer? After all, it's their fault for not creating a better environment to keep sick employees out.

How about sue the public transportation department for allowing homeless people on their bus, if you ride the bus and then get sick, suspecting it was due to a homeless person sitting in that seat?

 

~ If you can prove damages go ahead and file a lawsuit. You will always find a lawyer who will take the case - but likely not on contingency.

~ The flu and common cold could be your death sentence. You need lots of bullets. Now "nice" .

 

I'm with you on this. I think they would engender endless frivolity here. I do, however, think it would be instructive to identify the tyrants who demand this of the public, and then don't adhere to their own tyranny. It do that that holding those folks accountable would be a good use of the courts time. Perhaps democrats wouldn't be as likely to thwart their own laws, or constantly demonstrate that they believe in their own entitled living that is above the law....

 

It is fortunate that we live in a place where we are innocent until proven guilty.

 

Unless you are accused of rigging an election.

 

You may not realize this, but reckless endangerment is not something you can sue someone over unless there are actual tangible damages. And you have to show a direct cause-and-effect connection between the specific two parties concerned.

 

That is not true. People with unhealthy lifestyle makes insurance more expensive for the rest of us therefore putting it potentially out of reach for people who might need it. Just like riots. Just because your business didn't burn in the riots, doesn't mean you weren't affected. You will likely pay for companies that did burn via insurance premiums going up. "We are all in this together", right?

 

Could the "stand your ground" law come into play here? How much proof do you have to offer for the stand your ground defense that you felt threatened by a maskless individual?

 

Just as those who refuse to wear masks or social distance fill up hospitals with their reckless behaviour and deny others access to treatment.

 

Not true. Unhealthy people spread infectious diseases at a much higher level than healthy people. Unhealthy people are mostly responsible for antibiotic resistance from repeated treating of symptoms they could have avoided. Hell, unhealthy people are responsible for over-regulation of veterinary antibiotics I need for my animals at times. Traffic accidents that kill and injure innocent people are caused by diabetic shock and cardiovascular events. All preventable and all affecting innocent people.

And you brought up productivity. Imagine the monetary cost to me directly in taxes for healthcare and indirectly from lost productivity of unhealthy people in the market.

Edit to add environmental costs of unhealthy diets.

I could go on for paragraphs.

 

May the OP never see any sort of elected position, ever. Talk about fascism.

 

If the individual poses a 0.5% chance of death to you, I'm not sure that is adequate justification for use of deadly force.

It might be different if a sick person breaks into your house.
Still, I would imagine most juries would not acquit you in such a situation, unless the intruder had something like Ebola.