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Suez blockage is holding up $9.6bn of goods a day

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  1. Steady Pie

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    Islamic space lasers.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I have read descriptions of 60-foot waves in storms not bothering these vessels in the slightest but it is still logical that the wind blowing on the containers themselves would be a formidable force. It also bears keeping in mind that this seems a sideways motion problem and most of these huge freighters don't have any sort of real lateral controls like are on the cruise ships. How do you keep any sort of forward stability when your only form of propulsion is a 75-foot propellor all the way in the rear of a ship more than several hundred metres long?

    Additional reading reveals that this incident may be making bow thrusters an element of design in many new superships; though in fact, I am more than a little surprised they don't have them already. All the cruise ships do, I think even the smaller river types
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov, Mar 30, 2021
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    How do you figure that? If the Iranian's Houthi allies take charge of Yemen then they'll have that ability, they certainly never had it before.
     
    Reasonablerob, Mar 30, 2021
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  4. Montegriffo

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    Most large ships have bow thrusters, Ever Given was no exception.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ever_...ering in ports, Ever,(3,400 hp) bow thrusters.
     
    Montegriffo, Mar 30, 2021
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    What are you talking about? We just saw that it can be closed even by accident. A single person from anywhere in the planet can do by ramming a ship, or sinking one in the canal. The canal is hundreds of miles from Yemen.

    Even smaller boats have then. Heck my neighbor has them on his 35 ft boat. Howver, in the suez there was no room to manauver in a sand-storm where the whole ship acted like a giant sail. The thrusters were not enough.
     
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    Will you be stocking up:
     
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    "Ever Given" is stuck again - now it's about the money

     
    MJ Davies, Apr 2, 2021
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    Sounds like they are being extorted.
    15 million times 6 days is only 90 million. Even with another 10 million to cover tugs and cranes that's still only 100 Million so a billion is a crazy number.
     
    Montegriffo, Apr 2, 2021
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    Yep. Sounds like extortion to me.

    As an aside, the conspiracy theorists I know are saying that they are trafficking humans in some of that cargo and will end up paying the ransom to make sure authorities don't unload that ship. I guess time will tell.
     
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    Yeah, because Evergreen was Hillary's security codename.
    Doesn't matter that Evergreen shipping was started in 1983.
     
    Montegriffo, Apr 2, 2021
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    I love reading your posts. I just picture you there as cool as your avatar cat rolling your eyes at all the ridiculousness of the world. ;-)
     
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    Not the world, just conspiracy theorists.
     
    Montegriffo, Apr 2, 2021
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    Absolutely!! Something about alternate reality.....
     
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    Cats have a way of keeping things in perspective .....as mine show me daily ;-)
     
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    If the Houthis take Yemen Iran can put mines in the Red Sea and anti-shipping missiles on the shore making it impassable.
     
    Reasonablerob, Apr 3, 2021
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    Iran doesn't need Yemen for that. They can mine the Strait of Hormuz right on their doorstep.
     
    Montegriffo, Apr 3, 2021
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    Why does it require Houthis to take Yemen, when they could just do it now?
     
    Pro_Line_FL, Apr 3, 2021
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    Yes which is terrible enough, imagine if they could do both?

    Because they'd have a base from which to deploy their mines, torpedoes and missiles? Hell, even long range artillery could do it.
     
    Reasonablerob, Apr 5, 2021
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