Sweden: Nobody helped woman raped by 20 Muslim migrants — neighbors have “learned not to see or hear

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  1. notme

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    Infantile liars?
    The person in charge, Robert Spencer, is not able to enter the EU as a result of their opinion of being a hate speecher. He has been named by the Southern Poverty Law Center and Anti-Defamation League as a hate group leader.

    So it's a nazi site alright.

    Since they aint in English: nope.
     
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    What does the EU (http://www.spiked-online.com/newsit...less-attack-on-free-speech/18417#.WisAiHkVjIU ), Southern Poverty Law Center and Anti Defamation League all have in common?
    They all consider honest and truthful speech to be "hate" speech. http://www.legal-project.org/issues/european-hate-speech-laws

    They are all for Big Brother censorship and thought control. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-03/european-union-declares-war-internet-free-speech

    And apparently they all cannot distinguish between an attack on blood thirsty fundamentalist Islam, which demands submission by violence and intimidation, and all the rest of Islam. That's their problem.


    Unless you have reason to doubt and discredit these Swedish newspapers it is your problem...unless you don't mind being seen as a know nothing cretin.
     
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    Explain exactly how you know these reports carried in Swedish newspapers to be "lies" or get lost.

    Why do leftist, who like to pretend they are all for women's rights, callously disregard reports of rape by refugee gangs in Sweden?

    The only answer must be they are liars who are nothing more than political opportunists.
     
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  4. Jim Nash

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    Don't know the bloke at all, but the EU naming someone a "hate speaker" is like florists arranging flowers. It happens all the time, any time someone doesn't fit their multicultural, diversity agenda. So if anything it's a badge to wear with pride. I'm not sure the SPLC is exactly a doyen of impartial judgements either. They're a flag-waver for batty lefty causes. I would use neither the EU nor the SPLC as impartial sources.


    I used Google translate and came up with pretty much the exact same thing as Jihad watch.
     
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    Them aint reliable sources. lol

    Cant read it. It's an english site. Hence Swedish is not my problem.
     
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    Not at all.
    The EU actually banning a person from entering is highly exceptional.

    It's just obscure if no newspaper but a nazi site picks this up.
     
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    I said the EU acolytes calling someone a "hate speaker" wasn't unusual.

    There are two papers. It happened in Sweden, so non-English sites (Swedish) report on it. Oh, and repeating "it's a Nazi site" doesn't make it a Nazi site. I am as anti-Islam as they are (I presume); that doesn't make me a "Nazi", no more than the other millions of people worldwide who detest it.
     
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    Point is the EU banned him for being a hate speaker. That is highly unusual. I don't know any other non muslim who got this on him. And you comparing this with a florist.... not seeing it one bit... since this step is highly unusual.
    It's a nazi site since the guy running the show is one. Hence he aint allowed to set 1 foot in the EU. It aint my opinion. Also... you "Don't know the bloke at all"... is basically admitting you do not know what you're talking about on the subject of that nazi site.
    So what. Things get translated and picked up by lots of news sources. When the only news source is a nazi site.... well there you go.
     
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    Yes. That is funny, that you think something is reliable or not based on your personal preferences and prejudices.

    Is terrorism good or bad? Killing innocent people good or bad? Making women into chattel and children into orphans...good or bad?
    If Robert Spencer says that jihad and fundamentalist Islam is bad because it causes so much human suffering is he right or wrong?

    If Morris Dees and his money grubbing Southern Poverty Law Center thinks Robert Spencer is guilty of thought control hate speech crimes should I care or not about what the SPLC thinks?
    To a sentient rational thinking human being there really is no choice to be made. It's obvious whose view matters and is important.


    LOL @ U.
    The point is rape culture in Sweden is getting local press attention from Swedish newspapers. Whether you can read Swedish or not
    is immaterial. I've never seen such a dim witted self centered perception problem before.
     
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    There is nothing radical about the EU. And if they say out of probably a hand full of people out of billions,... that Robert Spencer is such a lunatic nazi that he may not set 1 foot in the EU,... than there is no reason to doubt that one bit. To come with the most obscure never heard of websites with a different opinion does not put any dent in this.

    The point is fake news. And special right wing snowflakes will just buy anything that fits their agenda.
     
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    I didn't call the EU radical....just invested in no one talking about the creeping shadow of terrorism.
    I understand there is no such thing as free speech in the EU and they decide ad hoc what is legal to say and not.
    I'm just saying banning people for what they think and say is about as fascist as it gets and it seems that's just how you like it.

    That makes you the anti-Orwell. Congratulations on your fascist state of mind.



    Well this is an interesting point. What makes it "fake news"? The fact that you don't like what was reported?
    You can prove it's fake....right? You can factually dispute what's been printed....right?
     
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    That all doesn't put in a dent in my argument that the owner is a nazi and he runs a nazi site which is presented as a "credible" source.

    The fact that it's only to be found on a nazi site.
     
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    You don't seem to have the mental horsepower to realize that merely being
    against Islamic fundamentalism doesn't make one a "Nazi".

    Christopher Hitchens was not a Nazi. Nor is Sam Harris, Ayaan Hirse Ali, Reza Aslan or Bill Maher, among many many others but frankly you don't seem capable of getting it. And furthermore reporting something you'd rather not see or believe doesn't make something "Nazi" either.

    Like when dealing with a childish tantrum I've given you some attention and a chance to come around but my patience has run out.
    So, have fun wallowing in your ignorance. I regret wasting my time.
     
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    It's not my opinion, buddy.
     
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    Saying "he's a Nazi" doesn't make him one. You have evidence he hates Jews and other such?


    I guess this is trolling because I've answered this several times and you repost the same comment. Jihad Watch picked it up, moreorless cribbed word for word from two Swedish news sites. Jihad Watch is not any "source". The Swedish Media is the source. And the Swedish media got the info from the woman's attorney, who is well known in the field.

    This story is in no way disputed, and you reposting "it's a Nazi site" ad nauseum doesn't change that.
     
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    While it isn't down to any poster to prove any story is fake, this account comes from two Swedish papers and has a well known lawyer in the middle of it. It isn't made up, and any such suggestion is absurd.
     
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    It's not me saying it....
    That nazi is not allowed to set 1 foot in the EU because he's a nazi.
    Southern poverty center and the anti-defamation league got the same attitude.

    How much more evidence do you need?
    Geez... lol

    Sounds like you can't stand your idol is a nazi.
    It's totally disputed... since the only English source is from a nazi site.
    And Swedish sources.... not my problem on this English site.
    We've been through this. You keep on trolling around it.
     
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    You've not offered any. I know nothing about him, but calling someone names doesn't add anything to anything. That said, I'm not much bothered about him.


    You're being extraordinarily silly. The fact that something isn't reported in English doesn't have any effect on its validity. I've already translated them, and they say exactly the same as Jihad Watch, who picked up on them. Jihad watch is not the source. The Swedish media is the source. Go here:

    https://www.metro.se/artikel/kvinna...dtäkten-i-fittja-fick-höra-att-hon-var-äcklig

    Copy and paste the text and put it in here:

    https://translate.google.co.uk/?hl=en&tab=TT

    ...and you'll have a badly-worded version of the same article that appeared on Jihadi Watch.

    Infowars has more details about the lawyer and her comments:

    https://www.infowars.com/sweden-mig...n-gang-rape-of-woman-tells-police-it-was-fun/
     
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    And FWIW, Muslim gang rape in Sweden isn't exactly breaking news. Here's another charming episode earlier this year:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ed-gang-rape-facebook-shocks-sweden/97633012/


    This is why Sweden is known as "the rape capital of Europe".
     
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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...t-white-supremacist-neo-nazi-eu-a8071971.html

    And of course you can't be bothered. Your goal is to get a nazi site acknowledged as a normal source. And me proving the guy is a nazi, kills your goal.

    The fact that the only english sources around is a nazi site, does destroy the credibility.
     
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    I've consistently pointed out that Jihad Watch is not the source. FF's sake, they cribbed it off the Swedish papers - which part of that don't you get?


    Swedish language sites have no less credibility than English sites. Language does not determine credibility. However, Paul Joseph Watson did a write up, which is moreorless the same but includes details of the lawyer involved:

    https://www.infowars.com/sweden-mig...n-gang-rape-of-woman-tells-police-it-was-fun/


    Happier, now that you've got an English "source"?
     
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    I have consistently pointed out that the only English source is a nazi site, and that non English sites are non of my problems.
    And that no other news site wants to pick this up, except a nazi site, really does scream fake news all over.
    Known fake news site. How about you check the credibility of your sources, buddy?
     
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    According to the Metro in Swedish, the victim is a drug addict who lied about being raped and the three suspects initially charged with rape were freed by the district court, which decided that there is no credibility in her rape story. These men may be drug dealers who were selling drugs in the stairwell, where she claimed to have been raped.
     
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    it was your right wing pals who created the wars that brought on jihadist extremism
     
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    I wonder if they will file a lawsuit for having spent all that time in prison after the charges were dropped.
     

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