sweet lil pistol

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    http://sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p938-blackwood.aspx

    it can be had with luminous night sights. There's also a .22 variant, as well as just the .22lr conversion unit. This unit is sold thru the mail to anyone, cause it's not a gun under federal law. it's just a magazine, slide and barrel "group".

    Expect to pay $500 for this gun, in good used condition. It does need a trigger job and an extention on the thumb safety. I also cut a notch in the slide and built up the safety's backplate, so that it locks the slide in place, like a 1911 does. The slide of the Sig can move back as you holster it, and I don't like that at all.

    This gun is single action, requiring you to carry it cocked and locked, which is not for novices to attempt. If you are not highly skilled, get the Ruger LC9 Double action trigger pull instead. $400 or so, brand new. Twisted Industries sells a 22 conversion unit for the LC9 and for Keltec's PF9 pocket 9mm.

    for the skilled shooter, the P938 is so lw, compact and easy to hit with (swiftly and repeatedly) The gun is so slim and trim that it's ideal for a Kydex plastic holster for the front pants pocket. Velcro, however, in the pocket and on the rig, is needed to assure that the holster is not "drawn" with the gun.

    If I'm going to be driving more than a very few minutes, I remove the gun from the pocket rig and tuck it into my waistband, covered with my shirt. In cold or rainy weather, I can "palm" the entire rig, from or to pants/coat pocket, just before doffing or donning my heavy coat.

    the .22 unit makes the gun into a superb trail gun, for small game. I frequently carry both the .22 variant and the 9mm when hiking. Why make a lot of noise if not needed, and why not have more power than the .22 if you need it? the total weight of both guns. is just 2 lbs., half a lb less than a 1911 .45 autopistol.

    I can reliably hit 3" disks at 50 ft with this pocket 9mm, and do the same at 25 yds with the .22 version of it. Not bad, for something that's only 6" long.
     
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    the .22 unit is .3" longer, making it the same oal as a S&w .38 snub. The .22 unit sells for $250, and a longer barrel is offered, threaded for use with a silencer. There's also a longer barrel and slide .22 unit, with adjustable sights. sig did a fine fine job with these guns. I'm not happy about the weak looking ejector, but it have proven to hold up just fine, for about 2000 rds thus far. Granted, my cast bullet reloads are wussified, about 380 levels of power.
     
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    Also comes in .380.
     
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    In a slightly smaller version, yes, called the P238. It's very similar to the old colt Mustang, which was a derivative of the old Star Pony. The aluminum framed DK star, 15 ozs, also locked breech and single action and 380, was available in 1965, the colt did not come out until 20 years later,, and its taken them almost 20 more years to realize how easily it could be scaled up (2mm in length, .080") to make it 9mm.

    I became aware of the locked breech Llama 380 in 1971 and attempted to smuggle one with me to Vietnam, but that's another story. :) I had a steel framed Star Pony 380 in 1983, and it was not all that hard to work up loads that outperformed todays 9mm loads (from pocket 9mms) I simple pulled the 85 gr jhp out of 380 Winchester Silvertip ammo and reloaded it over a caseful of Bullseye for 1300 fps, for 300 ft lbs and real expansion of the jhp in animals.
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    but today, you can use the (hard to find, but only need 100 cases) 356 TSW case, deepening the chamber .100", to drive a solid aluminum, hollowbased hollowpointed 45 gr bullet to 2200 fps, for 500 ft lbs. It has no more recoil than 115 grs at 870 fps (ie, a very mild 9mm load) but the bullet's being slit down the center, from the nose almost to the base, causes it to break in half at impact. The full length segments yaw and tumble as they penetrate, causing 2 diverging wound tracks with each hit. This effect makes the pocket 9 easily equal to a full sized 357 that uses 125gr factory loads. Not bad, for something so easily carried and which kicks like a 380. :)
     
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    this load pierces threat level IIA concealable armor, too. The SA trigger pull of the little Sig really helps extend the effective range of a pocket gun, and the use of earplugs doubles it (ie, from 5 yds to 10 yds) The Sonic earvalve plugs let you hear normal sounds, but block blasts. YOu can get them out of your pocket and into your ears as fast as anyone can (reliably) speedload a revolver( from realistic concealment). which is to say, in 4-5 seconds. If you get any warning in advance, or if you can make it to cover, you can insert the plugs. Put them in a "squeeze open" case,lanyarded to your belt, above the pocket where you carry the case. Jerk on the lanyard, and the case is in your hand. one second. another second, and the plugs are out of the case and in your hand. another 2 seconds and they are in your ears. and your gun need not be out of service while you do this (but IS out of service if you're reloading a revolver).
     

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