Taking our country back? I dont get it. Please explain

Im qouting myself from an earlier post because I just dont get it really.

"disrespect but a honest question. What is up with all this we will get our country back? I never got it. Governments have been the same for the last 6 administrations advancing government and spending. The problem with the last 2 is honest Americans got hit too hard. When was the point that we lost our country to you? I dont feel I lost a thing other than my ability to adapt, anticipate, and change. And even not that anymore i was complacent with government because I had to worry merely on my day to day as a small business owner. That was the problem we allowed our government to lull us to sleep for a time. IT WONT happen again and when I decided that at the very moment all went to hell in an instant. And for that immediate response that immediate determination I never lost America. It found me. Just like God when your down. America supported and didnt kill me for my outrage it encourages protest. You wont lose a child because of a bad teacher so why or what occured for to let Americas hand go when she was drowning".

Who gives up on america loses it and then wants it back?

 

Simple. It means Americans who believe in traditional American values, liberty and Capitolism, taking back the country from the big-government, quasi-socialist, baby-killing, anti-God freak Democrat party.

I hope that helps.

 

I love your posts and responses. I'll have you know that I'm also a Cathloic Crusader who is armed to the teeth to rid America and the world of this atheist socialist scum.

 

I am pro life. I would never even think about abortion in my family. That said the policies of republicans isnt that of anticipating the influx of children unwanted by their parents. You may stop abortion but not the hatred left behind for children. There has been no policy to advance anti-abortion only stop it. There is no system set up to handle the wave of children left behind by government or religion thats the problem thats why anti abortion cant move forward. BUt woman never should be judged by man only God so I will never look down on any person everybody sacrifices everybody struggles your decisions are you and Gods. But as a christian I will with all my heart fight for a baby but I cant hate a rape victim or a mother with nothing no husband no future. Mistakes are made sins everyone commits no sins are greater than another they all just are God is the supreme court justice and I trust him completely. What he taught me is to fight for him and to give your life to his way. His way says lead but not judge and he will do the rest and thats why im not going to cast people as baby killers. Love as a christian and work as a christian thats what I will do and then I will be an american citizen. Trust God and his faith in you or hate people you decide.

 

you asked when we lost our country.The answer is on nov 22nd 1963 is when we lost our country.our right to elect our own leaders was taken away from us that day and the real killers who pulled it off got away with it scott free.

These two videos explain why Kennedy and Lincoln were killed.For the same reason.when our government can murder the president of the united states and get away with it scott free,then that tells you that you are not living in a free country. watch these two videos below.it explains it all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFIlX0HjkmI

 

Thank you thats an honest answer and I will research it more for my benefit you have done me a service. Why does the country have to be riddled with distracting questions and answers when the opinion of intelligent and concerned americans was and will always be the right answer.

 

Bless you.

 

good to see you are open minded.many people are in denial and dont want to look at the evidence.here is another video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32CXJecdVQc

JFK was our last REAL president that we had.Real because he wasnt a willing puppet for the establishment and was not doing what they told him to do.He was stepping on some very powerful toes in washington.The president is just a puppet.He does what the establishment tells him to do.If he doesnt,then they end up like kennedy.

Thats why every president since then has stayed aliive because they were all willing puppets for the establishment willing to do their bidding and what they were told to do.

Every president since then has been more evil and corrupt than the previous one.Like i said before,both parties are corrupt.Until we get a third party president in office who will serve the people instead of wall street,nothing will ever change and we will keep losing more and more of our freedoms year after year.Jfk was trying to return us to the constitution of the united states where the people had control over the government instead of all these corporations that do now.

He believed in the constitution where the government served the people instead of the other way around like it is now and thats what cost him his life.There was never a real investigation into his assassination and there never will be as long as we have this corrupt two party system of demopublicans and reprocrats is what i call them.Even Ron Paul has called them that.Paul has the same visions that Kennedy did which is why they sabotoged his campaine and made sure he did not get elected.Paul like Kennedy,also wants to get rid of the fed.

 

Great response but you forgot to mention one thing. Kennedy did this and he was rich. He was the skull and bones type candidate to restrict information that benefit the whole. Yet he took a step forward not only having the intelligence to realize the potential of his people thru race and population but to take us beyond our time. He helped to make our time now andin his time America went to space. America advanced forward. Not just making a new type of car or a new type of phone but a new technology so to expand human knowledge and he made it a competition to the rest of the world. Advancing other countries faster than the speed in the flight of the first space shuttle. America advanced and so did the rest of the world. I admire kennedy because to go deep into the the thinking of the whole of America..... He was white and didnt have to. He did it because he was an American who saw america as it is, should be and will be, creators and leaders. You have to love Kennedy.

 

excellent post.well said.Yeah Kennedy could not be bought off to do their bidding because he was rich.They knew what they were getting in Lyndon Johnson because he wasnt rich so they knew he could be bought off and do their bidding.

After he became president,he reversed all of kennedys policys except for civil rights.He signed the civil rights act in 1964 RELUCTANTLY which is the key word because he was under pressure from activist groups.

His assassination still affects us today because like I said,not only was our right taken away from us to elect our own leaders but he belived in open diologue with leaders of other nations and world peace and was trying to establish peaceful relations with the congo,russia and cuba.

Matter of fact Castros aide who served as the communicater between him and kennnedy he wrote a book how after JFK's assassination,diologue that kennedy got started with Castro that castro tried to continue with Johnson broke down between them.Johnson ignored all of his attempts to get in touch with him to continue their discussions and never got back to him.Castro himself said when kennedy got killed that this was indeed a sad day for the world.

Also be grateful that Kennedy was elected and not Nixon because if Nixon had,we wouldnt be here right now and thats because Nixon was the CIA's boy.He ran covert operations for them when he was vice president under Eisenhower.

If he had been elected,he would have done what the top brass in the military wanted and gone in there and bombed them in the bay of pigs invasion like they wanted kennedy to do.

we know that to be true because Nixon in laters years while Johnson was president,said that if he had been president,he would have gone in and bombed them and knowing what a war mongrel Nixon was,I have no doubt he would have.

Thank god we had the bay of pigs disaster because after that Kennedy stopped listening to the military and the CIA because they lied to him from the very get go about the invasion saying they did not need military support when it was clear they needed it from the very beginning.

After that,Kennedy learned from that mistake and stopped listening to the military brass so when they encouraged him to bomb cuba,he ignored them and listened to what his aides and Bobby told him to do.he leaned heavily on them for advise and thats how he got us out of it.People always say he almost got us into a nuclear war but they forget that he got us out of it as well and that we for sure would have had one had Dick Nixon been president.

check your pm box.I have a really important video I would like you to take a look at.

 

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Thanks I will watch it tommorrow after work in entirety. I do believe kennedy is a template a great leader. He had faults but he as a leader not only admitted to them on occasion (not always pride is a great quality of man but an even greater vice). But he as a leader hand to grow adjacent to America. He accepted the challenge. What we are talking about isnt merely Kennedy loving it is great policy and great leadership. Leadership so strong that he risked and gave his life for a positive direction for America. Today politicians are scared to even talk about what they will do. They only talk about others and what leader of the past they willl emulate. Be the leader of this century please. History is for progression and to learn what works and what doesnt not to go back and live in history there is no such thing as a time machine YET lol. Kennedy is indeed a template of a leader but I believe as like fathers and sons, mothers and daughters greatness should be expanded upon that is the greatest gift you can give to great American sacrifice. That has yet to happen.

I believe it is because of the information age it has been manipulated. Just like in the past brainwashing exist to day. Just like the show criminal minds there are people to analyze the mind of voters down to mere words. What phrasing to say to get a response. What key words will deminish the opponent. Although it shows the greatness of an Intellligent mind it rubs me wrong that this is the greatness wasted. Americans who are wordsmiths turn into campaign hawks to slow the progression of a people for political gain. Its our life but when it matters those opposed KNOW the equation through study to silence American growth at a rate in which government says is appropriate

 

Now there's a good example of a REAL American who believes in traditional American values, liberty and capitalism - not an atheist socialist scum but a good Christian Conservative Catholic Crusader armed to the teeth and willing to use those arms to rid America and the world of half its citizens. And I'll bet anything you claim to be pro-life! ROTFLMAO! I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at the total ignorance displayed so frequently on this forum.

 

Good question. You may want to ask:

Howard Dean http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/28/us/media-message-excerpts-speeches-broad-variety-issues-convention-boston.html?pagewanted=2&src=pm

and

Hillary Clinton http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=SJ&s_site=mercurynews&p_multi=SJ&p_theme=realcities&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=111FFEB411A39448&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date&s_trackval=GooglePM

 

Conservatives.
It's a mental illness.

The further to the right we have gone as a notion, the worse off we get.

 

congrats u two racist bigots belong to the scum of the earth, u r not better then the taliban or germanys former nazis

thank god u r just big mouth/no actzions and thank god sane people dont think like u

 

the only way we will be a free country and get our country back is when the sheople get off their arses and fight for it.

 

I have taken the "taking our country back" talk as just being the Republicans telling us Democrats of their vow to get a majority government of Republicans in the White House, Congress, and perhaps the Courts too.

I don't see that happening for many years, at least.

The voters are hurting from betrayals on both sides of left and right, so I think the government is going to be mixed Republican and Democrat for at least several election cycles.


Anyway it was only recently?, but I don't even remember when anymore, that Republicans made a comeback, a full sweep into all branches of Government, after a long history of Democrats holding most of the power. So, Republican power is fleeting to begin with and they may push themselves back out of power because of their push to the extremists in their party.

 

The main difference between now and the first 50-80 years of the country was that back then there was at least the notion present that the constitution should be followed.

Example: when Jefferson wanted to take part in the Barbary War, even though he had an explicit mandate for defense from Congress, he went back saying he had no authority, while Nixon bombed... was it Cambodia (my memory is fuzzy), for 4 years before Congress found out that he'd done this in direct disobedience to their will. In this case nothing happened to him as a result.

There are dozens of examples like that for each president in recent memory.

 

THe problem, in my view, is that nobody cares about liberty unless it's their own we're talking about.

 

Agreed. That's usually the problem.

If a politician tries to force alcohol prohibition on the majority they lose it, but if they try to enforce marijuana/crack/gun prohibition on the young/poor/gun loving minorities then they're all for it!

Any country that wants to succeed needs to convince its people that liberty is an end, not a means to an end. It is desirable in and of itself, with no requirement that it bring about good results. Otherwise you'll see a slow decline like that in America now.

 

Indeed. Now it's just an inconvenience.

 

Give the man a cigar. More damage has been done to liberty in the name of "doing good for society" than any other misplaced notion I can think of. I blame the social engineers--those who would use the organs of government to satisfy their own authoritarian cravings at the expense of "liberty for all."

 

Better to reign in Hell? Than serve in Heaven? Old argument. And False.

BECAUSE IF YOU ARE IN HEAVEN, YOUR STATUS IS UNIMPORTANT. So whether servant or master, YOU ARE HAPPY AND CONTENT.

IN HELL, perhaps you have status, AND YOU BELIEVE YOURSELF BETTER OFF, because you have persuaded yourself, that despite all the suffering and misery around you, including your own torment,that your freedom from authority, is worth it.

The FAIL of Lucifer. KING of MISERY, but yes, he is totally FREE from any authority. IN HELL.

From a famous book of philosophy: "There is a path which seems right to a man, but its end leads to destruction"

 

Thanks man.

I reckon it's a combination of this strange notion that what the majority says goes, and good people with good intentions. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, unfortunately.

 

You must think that the road to Heaven (whicd is NOT Hell), is paved with evil (NOT good)intentions then.

If P then Q = If not P, then not Q.