Teenage Iranian chess master banned from team for refusing to wear "hijab".

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  1. Iranian Monitor

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    While propagandist with ulterior motives like to find some strange story to highlight about Iran to peddle what is ultimately a false picture, the true facts in Iran can be better understood reading an article like this. Even if the article itself is tinged with a good deal of propaganda, coming from a propaganda outlet. But the propaganda cannot hide the fact that the large number of women in various professions is actually causing debate as to whether Iran needs some form of affirmative action program for men!

    I posted the article about 70% of Iran's engineering students being female. This one focuses on the medical field, where women are beginning to dominate the field and creating a shortage of doctors that can be sent to "hardship locations" in remote rural areas that are harder to attract women doctors to than men.

    http://www.rferl.org/a/iran-seeks-balance-women-advancements-medicine/25358442.html
     
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    What is funny is that the articles I posted were all from conservative or conservative leaning sources: the Washington Times, Forbes, or the US government sponsored Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty.

    Anyway, you seem to have a wish to see a war with Iran. Time will tell if you are going to get your wish? While war would certainly be disastrous for Iran, I am confident you will discover it wasn't really worth the costs in US treasure and blood and more. All just because you have a chip on your shoulder about a country that has refused to accept being bullied by the US.
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only good Iranian guy I know fled the place when the pyschos took over in '79.

    Iran wouldn't be so bad if they could keep their hands to themselves. They are actively trying to support terrorism in Yemen and North Korea.

    I think a conventional bombing campaign would be enough to militarily weaken Iran and have the government neutered. We also have the best Army in the world close by on Iran's East and Western borders---and Iran would be even easier to trample underfoot than Saddam's forces.

    I would not wish to be an Iranian during a war with NATO unless I was farming or raising goats far out in the countryside.

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  4. Pollycy

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    It isn't "spin" to say that among civilized people throughout the world, in the 21st Century, no one should be commanded to wear anything (ANYTHING) on their heads that they don't want (WANT) to wear on their heads! It really has nothing to do with "work force participation, income disparity, 'propped-up' governments" or any of that sort of thing. Believe me (or not), if the country in question were a cruel, dogmatic, oppressive CHRISTIAN theocracy, I'd feel exactly the same way! But among all major religions in the world today, only Islam seems to preach committing acts of hatred, violence, murder, and insane intolerance against "infidels" and others who don't believe as they do. What better example of this insanity can there be than the fact that various sects of Islam can't even tolerate each other?!

    If mankind is ever going to ascend into some sort of "next-higher" level of development, it would be better for us all if things like violent, intolerant, hateful religions completely disappear from human experience....
     
  5. FreedomSeeker

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    When the non-Muslim left finally abandons Islam then that will effectively be the end of Mohammad's political influence in the civilized world - forever. He must be rolling over in his grave right now if he say the direction the world is slowly heading it. The left will abandon Islam soon (but not soon enough.)
     
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    Muslim armies seem to be very very easily defeated, time and time again, by Western or Israeli forces - so clearly their "Allah" is not real, does not work to help them. Clearly.
     
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    The Bible has more acts of cruelty and violence than even the cruel/violent Qur'an does, so you are talking about the Bible/Christianity as well, correct?
     
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    Jesus believed that too - he spoke of Adam/Eve, and never corrected that story. Jesus believed the earth was 4000 (now 6000) years old, since that's what the geneloogies add up to. A sane person, who cared about us, would of course say "ok, look, the Bible got a lot of things wrong and the 6000 year thing was chief among those - apologize for such an innaccurate book - and it got slavery wrong, too."

    We forgive your ignorance, however, Jesus.
     
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    You condemn Islam, correct, for not allowing freedom of religion (Hindus, Buddhists, etc. will be tortured in the "afterlife" since Allah clearly doesn't believe in freedom of religion.) I do, how about you? I do that because I believe in freedom of religion, and love people too much to see them tortured. How about you, is your love as great as mine?

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    So then you join me in condemning Jesus/Allah for not allowing religious freedom (Gandhi is tortured for 99.9999999% of his existence for not believing in Jesus/Allah's respective religions), correct? It's the loving thing to do - to stand up for religious tolerance, of course.
     
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    Head scarfs are worn by Muslim women because Muslim men can't control their sexual appetites - as the sight of a woman's ears, or hair, or neck is too much for them to handle. Like Mohammad (couldn't even control his urges enough to keep his penis from entering 9 year-old Aisha, repeatedly), they lack self-discipline - or of course we'd see an end to the "cover" rule in Islam.
     
  11. dairyair

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    And yet, I never said anything about any of those topics.
    There in is your problem, you make dumb arse assumptions and lump everyone into a boxed category.
    Being an avid hunter, I've not said 1 thing in any forums on this website or any other regarding gun control.
    But, attack the messenger when they've hit a nerve, that seems to be your MO.

    I post about letting people be, while you post about forcing others to conform to your ideology, and then you try to accuse me, wrongly, of forcing something. Only fools do that.
     
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    I don't follow or believe islam. I really don't care what their stupid beleifs are in regards to an afterlife.
    Do you believe people will be tortured in an afterlife?
     
  13. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If memory serves me correct, your want all US citizens to conform to liberal Abortion and LGBT stances.

    Do you not want abortions legal in all states?

    Also, does any state or local government have the right to infringe upon honest citizens from at least concealed carry (bearing arms) in public?
     
  14. dairyair

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    I want each to have their own choice to be an option. If abortion is legal, it does not force anyone to get an abortion.
    If gays can marry, that doesn't mean you are forced to marry someone of the same sex.
    That's why binary thinkers have so many problems. They can't comprehend things except in an all or nothing frame of mind.

    I don't agree with CC, but I'm not doing or saying anything against it. I let those that determine the constitutional rights determine those things. Like the USSC.

    Try again.
     
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    So you agree it is about their safety at least.
     
  16. FreedomSeeker

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    You can't make a moral decision - you can't " join me in condemning Jesus/Allah for not allowing religious freedom (Gandhi is tortured for 99.9999999% of his existence for not believing in Jesus/Allah's respective religions)". You can't condemn Jesus/Allah for their barbaric treatment of non-believers.

    No, I think Mohammad/Jesus were con-men by them basically resorting to threats of barbaric torture by effectively saying "either believe in me, or my invisible friend in the sky will torture you!", so I don't believe in an "after-life", but I summon the moral courage to condemn them for teaching that. Can you rise to that moral level (to condemn Jesus/Allah)? I believe in you.

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    They need to abandon "covering" - to send a message to Muslim men that MEN are responsible for rape, not women - it's not the woman's fault. Men need to keep it in their pants.
     
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    Their "stupid beliefs" in an after-life with a reward of 72 hot virgins (and "rivers of wine", etc.) for killing those who oppose gods' Sharia Law has lead to America being in it's longest war in US history, with no end in sight, so of course you should care!
     
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    With an answer like that, I would say we have more to fear from you than Pence, Sessions, Brownback, et al. It's really alarming that there are those who think devout Christians (even zealots) are in any way similar to Islamic fanatics who are filled with intolerance, hatred and more than happy to see their fellow Islamic terrorist take out the enemy.

    Or as some philosopher once said:
    Smart people look at two similar things and see differences.
    Obtuse people look at two similar things and see similarities.
     
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    Can't help but think of how often Obama placated, even lauded nations like this and their religion --- while our media said nothing. That Iran deal is still one of the most traitorous acts upon the American people, imo.
     
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    Nobody has anything to fear from me as I am not a religious fanatic who would ever try to shove my beliefs down anyone's throat. I am opposed to any sort of cultists or religious fanatics taking their whacky belief systems and insinuating them into our governmental policies whether they are Jews, Muslims or Christians. Fundamentalists from any of the three major religions are a danger to freedom when allowed to get involved in government...
     
  21. Sam Bellamy

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    Yes, but people can, and do, pay for things they do not believe in through taxation. IMO, you can do what you please, just stop asking me to fund the (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    What exactly do you mean by “insinuating them into our government?”

    I think it is totally immoral to take the life of a child in a mother’s womb. I much more strongly hold that position because I know it is an abomination to God, the Christian God. The one and only God.

    So I vote for candidates who also hold that belief and would vote in congress to repeal legalization of abortion. What did I do as a Christian that is illegal or improper? What did that congressman do that was illegal or improper?

    Or are you saying that you can say yes to abortion and yes to gay marriage and yes to tranny boys in girls locker rooms because you are not thinking about any God when you come up with your opinions. But I cannot use my vote or opinion because I think this is bad for the nation because God has made it clear to me? Where does it say we have to explain our reasons why we vote the way we choose?
     
  23. Pollycy

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    Here's another one who has to have it explained that the other major religions of the world stopped this kind of abusive, destructive behavior hundreds of years ago! Other major world religions, including Buddhism and Hinduism, along with Christianity and Judaism, have had very intolerant, violent pasts, characterized by oppression, tyranny, and even warfare. ALL of them.

    And all of them -- except Islam -- abandoned this insane, inhuman behavior hundreds or even thousands of years ago. The worn-out tactic of trying to drag up portions of the Old Testament work well if you want to point out some aspects of a violent past among Jews in the ancient world, but it cannot rationally be compared with what Islam is doing in the 21st Century!
     
  24. Robert

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    I don't recall we republicans using violence over our issues over Obama. We did not rush to the congressional town hall meetings to disrupt those. Matter of fact a good friend to Iran was Obama.

    We deal with intolerance by the use of the pen. When we bust up things, then call us intolerant.
     
  25. dairyair

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    Every religion has their crackpots. It's really what religion was made for. But not all are extreme.
    The nut cases need to be dealt with when they act on their make believe. As for the mainstream folks, they just live their life.
     

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