Tell Us Again How Obama's FBI was NOT Corrupt . . . just for giggles; that is.

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    And another lie because you cannot address what I ACTUALLY said, that Obama walked into what the situation created by the Democrats for not having passed measures to MITIGATE the depth and length the recession not CAUSED it. That you do not know the meaning of the word MITIGATE is not my problem and if you again try to misrepresent what I said and lie about it you will be reported to the mods for badgering.

    Once again

    "I have been quite clear about what I said while you have rambled on trying to put words in my mouth and being argumentative and have YET to address what I actually said and posted. Obama "walked into" a situation he and his fellow Democrats created with their lack of policies to help mitigate the depth and length of the recession and then his stimulus failed by even his own measures. As I have said for EONS and not the what you a rahl fallaciously claim for lack of being able to rebut those FACTS."

    No where do I say they CAUSED the recession the recession was already a YEAR OLD and you cannot quote me saying they CAUSED it so stop with the purposeful misrepresentation of what I ACTUALLY post or you will be reported. I can understand you can't refute the facts and your petty and fallacious arguments certainly do not.

    I will refrain from the uncivil and childish profanities.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We moved past the word "caused" a long time ago - the word you actually use was "Created" so why you are whining on about "mitigated" do not know as that is not the claim being discussed.

    I claimed that you said "the Dems caused the 2008 crash" vs the above in which you state the Dems created the 2008 crash - as that is the topic being discussed.
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    You spent about 5 post whining and stomping your feet claiming caused means different than created - after I had already accepted your word .. calling me a liar .. on and on.

    but that is fine - consider the source - demonize away - what I am waiting for is for you to tell us how the Dems getting control of congress in 2007 - caused the 2008 crash ?

    This is why we all paid $20 for popcorn and coke.

    That would be nice - but , has yet to happen in many posts.
     
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    Just like the source of the whole birther movement. It was started by the Hillary Campaign in the 2008 election cycle.
     
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    Yeah, it’s a safe bet that if democrats are accusing you of committing some type of transgression, it’s because they’re guilty of doing the same thing.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    You moved past it because you were fallaciously claiming I said it and now you can move on from be claiming the Democrats "created" the recession which is another knowingly fallacious statement. Go look up the meaning of the word "mitigate" and get back to me.

    Once again
    "I have been quite clear about what I said while you have rambled on trying to put words in my mouth and being argumentative and have YET to address what I actually said and posted. Obama "walked into" a situation he and his fellow Democrats created with their lack of policies to help mitigate the depth and length of the recession and then his stimulus failed by even his own measures. As I have said for EONS and not the what you a rahl fallaciously claim for lack of being able to rebut those FACTS."

    You obviously can't argue the facts.
     
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    This has gotten beyond strange I agreed to use the word "Created" rather than "Caused" some 10 posts ago - and numerous times since then - yet for 10 posts or more you have been complaining that I accused you of saying.

    "The Dems Caused the 2008 Crash" - what you claimed to have said was "The Dems and Obama Created the 2008 Crash"

    The situation that we are referring to is the 2008 crash - and its effects.

    So your claim is that "The Dems and Obama Created the 2008 Crash" - with (through) their lack of policies.

    Got it - for the 5th time ...

    Did you want to complain further about my use of the word Caused" rather than "Created" .. or did you want to actually try to defend your claim ... which is what we all are waiting for.

    "You obviously can't argue the facts."

    Classic Projection - We are waiting for you to make an argument - in support of your claim.

    How did the Dems getting power in 2007 - "Create" - the 2008 Crash ?







    You obviously can't argue the fact
    and you are Projecting.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    False you cannot quote me making that statement.

    I actually said and posted Obama "walked into" a situation he and his fellow Democrats created with their lack of policies to help mitigate the depth and length of the recession and then his stimulus failed by even his own measures. As I have said for EONS and not the what you a rahl fallaciously claim for lack of being able to rebut those FACTS."

    Again

    "I have been quite clear about what I said while you have rambled on trying to put words in my mouth and being argumentative and have YET to address what I actually said and posted. Obama "walked into" a situation he and his fellow Democrats created with their lack of policies to help mitigate the depth and length of the recession and then his stimulus failed by even his own measures. As I have said for EONS and not the what you a rahl fallaciously claim for lack of being able to rebut those FACTS."

    That is NOT claiming they CAUSED, nowhere does that say they CAUSED so stop with the fallacious attempts to misrepresent what I posted and put words in my mouth.
     
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    complete nonsense - "Obama walked into a Situation" - the situation referred to is the 2008 crash. Yes/No ?
     
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    Funny how not a single respected media outlet of any kind or any law enforcement agrees with the b******* you hear on Fox and Rush etc. In the entire world. I suppose you think the Democrats run the BBC and France 24 and der Spiegel and the hindustani times and every other newspaper and TV station not owned by Rupert Murdoch. In the entire world. Poor America
     
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    As if the Republicans would have allowed passage of anything else. We needed the two little ladies from Maine on the stimulus. And they took hell for it.
     
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    You are accusing the FBI of CORRUPTION??? Well who do you think was paying them off??? And do you have any proof???
     
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    Tell Us Again How Obama's FBI was NOT Corrupt
    Now, who is the crazy person that believes that?
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    Supposition refutes nothing and yes the Republicans were more than willing to meet with and negotiate but they were told by Obama that elections had consequences and take a seat in the back. Obama GOT his stimulus and GOT his healthcare and both were utter failures by the goalpost HE SET.
     
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    Blah blah blah, you got played, or you were a willing tool. Which is it?
     
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    You live on the imaginary GOP planet.... Worst inequality anywhere and worst upward mobility anywhere is not trivia.
     
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    Bologna. The GOP is full of s***. They never voted for anything he ever wanted. Those are the only two things he ever got passed. The stimulus was an absolute necessity in the middle of a corrupt GOP meltdown, and ObamaCare is the best social reform since LBJ. Despite pure GOP obstruction in sabotage. Who are you voting for and why? Just garbage wedge issues and imaginary Democratic scandals.
     
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    Weird, because Noam Chomsky says the exact same thing. Is Chomsky living on Planet GOP as well?
    “The political dissident, linguist, and professor Noam Chomsky says the rest of the world thinks the U.S. media's Trump-Russia collusion allegation is a "joke" given the history of the U.S. in the last 135 years, and that if we are worried about foreign interference, Israel already influences more of American politics than Russia could ever hope to, in this interview with Democracy Now!”
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v..._as_a_joke_media_ingnores_serious_issues.html
     
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    He refused to negotiate with them why should they have voted for those measures they knew they would fail. They didn't fail because Republicans voted against them they failed on their own merits.
     
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    That is something that is pure misinformation from the GOP propaganda machine. There was a gang of six Republicans who negotiated with democrats for months until the GOP told them they were just a joke and stalling tactic LOL. Luckily Democrats were able 2 salvage a somewhat imperfect bill. Obama originally did not want a mandate so it doesn't make any difference. It needs to be tinkered with forever just like every other modern countries health system. The GOP of course wants to go back to the old screw over everyone scam system....
     
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    funny how the US Senate intelligence committee just came out unanimously saying there is no doubt the Russians interfered with the 2016 election in favor of trump. Just said today, try real media. And of course you believe the Trump campaign meeting with the Russians 30 times and lying about it and never writing anything down is just fine LOL. Of course why the Russians would want Trump idiots to help....and of course Trump said please go ahead Russia and China in public LOL. Wake up snap out of it... Trump is a crook fraud con man obviously..... You are so misinformed and uninformed. Poor America
     
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    The FBI has always been very corrupt. The thinking Left used to know that.

    "When the FBI could not find significant "subversive" influence, the bureau abandoned all pretense that its intelligence was directed only at organizations under the control or influence of a foreign power or dedicated to "violence." The Socialist Workers party (SWP) was placed under heavy surveillance even through the bureau conceded it was "home grown tomatoes" and in active opposition to the Communist party. The bureau took aim at the SWP because it espoused the "revolutionary principles of Marx, Lenin, and Engles (sic) as interpreted by Leon Trotsky" by "running candidates for public office." The surveillance of Martin Luther King, Jr., as we have seen, was ostensibly to prevent "the rise of a 'messiah' who could unify and electrify the . . . black . . . movement," although King's criticism of the bureau may well have been the real reason."
    THE LAWLESS STATE, The crimes of the U.S. Inteligence Agencies, by Morton Halperin, Jerry Berman, Robert Borosage, Christine Marwick, Penguin Books, 1976.
    http://thirdworldtraveler.com/NSA/Lawless_State.html
     
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    What’s funny is you completely duck the fact that Chomsky, a Uber leftist, called you tools out for allowing yourself to be manipulated.
    Even more hilarious, I remember when congress said they had clear evidence that Saddam had WMDs.
    Your statement leads me to believe that you either suffer from memory loss, due to your advanced age, or you’re a complete partisan hack.
    Which is it?
     
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    No it's the facts and the Dems wrote and passed THEIR stimulus and THEIR healthcare and it didn't fail because Republicans did support them that is nonsense. Stop making excuses.
     
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    He did but most had deteriorated in hiding or had been moved out but the crucial point was that with the sanctions lifted he would have quickly rearmed as the ISG found. Perhaps you should get your facts straight before you start personally attacking others which BTW will get your post removed and a warning issued around here.
     
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    I don't give a s*** what Norm Chomsky said 2 years ago LOL. Republicans said there was no doubt Saddam had wmds and Fox news said there was no doubt. So Democrats voted want to give w bush power to threaten Iraq. Not to go to war. And it turned out the Republicans were lying pieces of s*** again. Great job!
     

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