After Israel not accept to apologise from Turkey for Mavi marmara flotilla raid and killing 9 Turkish citizen in international waters, Turkey made second movement and diplomatic relationships between Israel decreased to lowest level. Also Turkey warned again South Cyprus for the gas reserch in international waters in Mediterranean, as you know Israel and Cyprus agreed to search Natural Gas at the international water in Mediterriannen. As last movement Turkey declarated that Turkish Navy will use its right and will protect the international sea lines after that. Minister Egemen Bagıs declarated that The Armies is waiting for this job by refering the Cyprus and also for Israel. As you know israel is don't accept the 12 miles rule and they use 20 miles from their land even this doesn't have any aloowance from international laws. http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n....ullying-in-eastern-med-is-over8217-2011-09-02 In my Oppinion Turkey is right that Israel is doing whatever they want in Med. and somebody has to say stop to them, however i beleive that Turkey is playing big and dangerous game, It seems that Israel is alone but we got used from history today who is giving motivation to Turkey for this movements tomorrow easly can sell Turkey and change their ideas. In this case Turkey will be alone at the region so it is best to make this movements with the official international support instead of verbally supports...
it is clear turky is engaged in an agressive foreign policy cloacked as "gentle giant" we in israel do not see this with humor. turky is neither gentle nor giant, but rather a paper tiger the honey moon is over and the us needs to understand we will not compromise our interests in the redgion. turky must be held to account for its illegal occupation of cyprus and the illegal uccupation of its eastern kurdish regions. if turky wants to bully it needs to face bully punishment.
The Kurds have an opportunity to be good citizens of Turkey even after 50 years of Israeli funding .... The Israelis should really tend to their own business. Turkey has NO obligation to be their only trading partner in the region. And there is NO reason for Turkey to allow Israel to use Turkish airspace when they are constantly threatening to bomb Iran. Is the US still paying Turkey to play nice with Israel? I tend not to be confrontational.. Turkey should ignore Israel.
you see, you insist with your provocations, keep your anti-Kurd feeling inside and shut up your mouth.
I think the Kurds have been very fickle contractors for many decades.. and your time would be better spent becoming part of Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Iran and Iraq than trying to grab someone else's land ..
Israel has every right to not apologise to Turkey. What for? Why apologise for the deaths of persons that were on an illegal endeavor at the shores of Israel. Turkey is a pissy place anyway. Lots of nations hate them.
You already have 23 fascist-dictator arab states, why adding more dictatorships to the world? Unlike your people, Kurds are civilized and peace-loving people.
The Kurd's objective is to take the land of others... just like Israel. It would mean years of ethnic cleansing and being on the dole. Do you think every group should have it's own country at the expense of others?
The kurds were nomads.. with small anchor villages.. Just like everyone else who live in the region. The kurds want control of Iraqi oil development that has existed since 1917.. that's why israel has funded the rebels for decades. The kurds are being sold out by special interests.. They should take their destiny in their hands and become PART of Turkey, Syria, Iran, Iraq. Lebanon and Israel.
This applies to The US and Israel as well. Why, because Turkey -as well as the US and Israel- is strong and able to push her policies by force.
You are extremely uneducated, the Kurdish elite were not Nomads, and it is well documented in numerous sources from people visiting the Ottoman empire, even during the ottoman empire majority of Kurdistan was autonomous, including Kirkuk! these areas are Kurdish, the only reason they are in Iraq is becuase the British beat the Kurdish forces once they declared the republic of Kurdistan in the 1920's. No point discussing with an uneducated person since they are only programed to hate anything they believe have ties to Israel.
Yes.. they were nomads and began settllng around Kirkuk in the earliest days of the Anglo Iraq oil company to work in the oilfields. Massoud Barzani and Mustapha Barzani have been puppets of the Mossad since 1952.. You can find evidence and photographs from those dates. Mustapha Barzan with Mosad i the photo.. Mustapha was also a KGB agent. The Kurdish rebels have always been contractors.
You are even more foolish than I thought. Have a read through:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baban Kirkuk was under Kurdish autonomy throughout the ottoman empire days, before the invented state of Iraq. Barzani was fighting Saddam and so was Israel, he simply applied the enemy of my enemy is my friend principle. Get some education before posting on a political forum, the least we expect from people participating here is that at least they know what they are talking about, and clearly you do not.
Title is about the tension in Mediterranean between Israel-Turkey and due to Natural Gas research in International waters without listening laws, attacking to flotillas and killing people without who were without gun, in international waters. The title is not about Kurdish problem or Turkish invasion in Cyprus. You choose the way such as Israel goverment who get used to use other nations and take the topic far from dirty israel politicians. To critisize Israel goverment does not means to critisize all Israilians so you don't need to pretend you don't see the crimes of Israel goverment and Army. Think that Kurds in Turkey at the same situation and and Israilian flotilla is attacked by Turkish Army at the international waters and 9 Israili citizen killed, could you say the same again there is no need for Turkey to apologise? Do you beleive what you say or do you really beleive that people beleive you?
Is that all you can comment on? Kurds and Iraqi Arabs at those times, or in Saddams day were at war, and so Israel was a partner with common interest, nothing more nothing less. Kirkuk has been and will always be a Kurdish city, nothing your uneducated approach states will change that. Do us all a favor, read some books if you want to participate so that you come up with a better argument, I mean your just too easy, your education level is so insignificant here that its no fun.
Turkey should apologize for killing 7 innocent members of the same family, including a 4 month old baby! don't you think?
If there is, of course has to apologise. However there is a differance they died at the operation to PKK, i don't think anybody beleives here Turkey killed this family on purpose. Israil killed people on purpose in front of the cameras Israil has to apologise 1000 times more. Anyway we can discuss the Kurdish issue in Kurdish titles, i wanted to show how he changed the issue. It is like he cares about the Kurds too much. He cares according to his benefits, untill yesterday Israel was selling the guns to Turkey and when European countries bringing limitation to use it aganist to PKK only Israil wasn't bringing limitation. Turkey didn't want too much things just an apologise and compensation to families. Tehere were only one muslim community has members not feeling hatred to Israel before (not states or goverments talking about people) now there is not. Erdogan is planing to pass to Gazze next month from Rafah Custom Egypt, and the 3 bilion Dolar market between Turkey and Israel is in danger. Only 1 agreement Turkey was planing to make a modification with Israelian software systems for F-16 jets was 114milion Euros which is cancelled now.
you are not only uneducated but scarily ignorant, I suggest you read more about the history (not from your limited arab resources), particularly about the migration of beduines from arabia to north.
Arab bedouins migrated north in waves over 10,000 years ago.. but there have been other pastoral and herder cultures all over Mesopotamia for longer than that. What Arab sources are you talking about?
Turkey's army is composed of conscripts. Turkey isn't capable of even coping with the Kurdish insurgency.