Texas Job creation : only thanx to government hiring .

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    http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/rick-newman/2011/08/16/how-rick-perry-created-jobs-in-texas

    "Texas: Up 0.7 percent since the beginning of 2008. U.S: Down 5.6 percent. Since the recession began, Texas has added about 75,000 jobs, one of the few states with any job creation at all. Overall, the U.S. economy has lost about 5.6 million jobs since then. But net job gains in Texas have come entirely from government hiring, which accounts for 115,000 new jobs over the past three years. The private sector in Texas shed about 40,000 jobs during that time."

    "Federal government jobs. Texas: Up 7 percent. U.S.: Up 4.3 percent. Nationwide, the federal government has been a steady source of job growth over the last three years, and Texas has gotten more than its share, thanks to several big Army bases and a heavy NASA presence. Texas is one of the biggest beneficiaries of Washington spending, which pumps more than $200 billion per year into the state economy, according to the New York Times. That reliance on federal money could backfire if there are cutbacks in military and space spending in coming years, as many analysts expect."

    State government jobs. Texas: Up 8.4 percent. U.S.: Down 0.1 percent. While other states were furloughing workers, Austin was hiring. The prominence of the energy sector, which accounts for about 10 percent of the Texas economy, is one reason, since taxes paid by the booming oil and gas industry have generally drifted upward over the last decade. Texas also accepted $6.4 billion in stimulus money from Washington, according to the Washington Post, which helped support employment in education, health care and various parts of government. This trend, too, could reverse soon: The stimulus money is all but spent, and Perry recently signed a state budget that will cut spending by $15 billion, or 8 percent, over the next year, with the biggest cuts coming in education and healthcare. That seems sure to kill some jobs.

    Local government jobs. Texas: Up 6.1 percent. U.S.: Down 1.7 percent. Local government jobs in Texas have been protected by many of the same factors that have buoyed state government payrolls, such as strong business tax receipts and federal stimulus money. Local governments will probably start to downsize as stimulus funds dwindle and state spending falls.



    Private-sector jobs. Texas: Down 0.5 percent. U.S.: Down 6.6 percent. Though it has performed better, Texas has not been immune to the recession or its aftermath. Private companies shed about 40,000 jobs between the beginning of 2008 and the end of 2010, though in nearly every category the Texas economy has held up better than the national one. Here's a breakdown of some key industries:

    Healthcare jobs. Texas: up 12.6 percent. U.S.: Up 6.2 percent. The healthcare industry has been the single biggest source of new jobs throughout the U.S. economy over the past three years. As with other industries, Texas has snagged more than its share.

    Private education jobs. Texas: Up 17.4 percent. U.S.: Up 6.5 percent. Demand for education is up—especially with the job market so weak—which means that private colleges, universities and K-12 schools, plus technical schools and training academies, have been hiring. More so in Texas than elsewhere.

    Oil and gas jobs. Texas: Up 6.7 percent. U.S.: Up 4.5 percent. After the punishing energy bust of the 1980s, Texas diversified, and energy declined as a percentage of the state's economic output. It's still an important source of jobs and tax revenue, however, and the recent boom in energy prices has helped keep Texas flush.



    Retail jobs. Texas: Up 1.9 percent. U.S.: Down 7.2 percent. This sector is a good example of how a relatively strong core economy has helped prop up the fringes. Consumer spending and growth in the state's retail industry is hardly sizzling, but at least it hasn't been a net drag on the Texas economy, as it has been in most other states. The trend is similar in finance, hotels, restaurants, administration and professional services: Job growth is relatively flat, but that's a lot better than the sharp declines elsewhere.

    Information jobs. Texas: Down 10.9 percent. U.S.: Down 10.9 percent. This industry, which includes publishers, broadcasters, Internet firms and software developers, is one of the few in which a bleak job outlook in Texas mirrors the national trend.

    Manufacturing jobs. Texas: Down 11.6 percent. U.S.: Down 15.8 percent. A lot of manufacturing in Texas involves energy products, which has helped keep job losses below the national average.



    Construction jobs. Texas: Down 14.5 percent. U.S.: Down 26.4 percent. Construction is weak everywhere, but with a muted real-estate bust, Texas has lost fewer of these blue-collar jobs than other states. Even when it's bad, it's better in Texas.


    Perry can selve his "job creation" myth.
     
  2. GiveUsLibertyin2012

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    here we go again...
     
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    Sorry but min wages jobs don't really count.
     
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    All jobs are factored into unemployment. Non farm and private. Stop being so ignorant.
     
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    All that does is inflate the number of "jobs" on paper. In reality min wage jobs don't count.
     
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    Yep facts are a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) when you are republican presidential candidate isnt it? LOL
     
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    In what reality do minimum wage jobs don't count. If a job has payroll on the books it's factored into job report. And jobs numbers are factored in by industry, not the wage amount. I don't know if you've ever seen a job report before but this is what it looks like.

    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t17.htm
     
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    Why wouldnt they? They arent the best but still better then nothing.

    Critisizing obama for creating jobs trough the gouvernement while at the same time doing the same and benifiting from those federal jobs created is hypocritical .

    Thumping your chest then for it is just stupid.
     
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    Min wage jobs aren't real jobs. They hardly qualify as a living wage.
     
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    I love economic illiterates. Thanks for the state-wide unemployment statistics. I've been trying to find it everywhere.

    How many states have unemployment below 5 percent? Only 8 with my state included.

    What do all these states have in common? They have less than 5 million residents living in these states. Of course unemployment is low in these states. Unemployment will be high is states with a high population.

    Unemployment has never been high in my state. There are only a couple thousand people living here. It's been the same since Obama took office.

    So yeah, 8.2 percent among populated states over 5 million people is quite good.
     
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    If that's the case then unemployment is 16 percent. Do you ever think before you type?
     
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    lol......
    So your job doesnt count??
     
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    I haven't had a min wage job since High school. Shouldn't you be waving your flag and chanting USA somewhere?
     
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    Trying to spin it.

    Why 5% Why not 4 or 3% Even less states.

    8.2% is the 26st state in unemployment.

    New york has 8% thats under 5 million?


    And you dont even adress the topic itself, Perry didnt create jobs in the private sector but in the public sector (or they were created for him by the federal gouvernement) . there is nothing to be proud off.
     
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    A jobs is a job.
    So when I was in school and working at a fast food joint for $5 an hour,yet still managed to pay rent,pay bills,and buy food wasnt living on it??
    Oh,might I add that I also had tuition fees to pay.And mommy and daddy didnt help me either.
    I know many people that can survive on minimum wage,not as comfortable as someone making $100,000 a year,but still making it.

    How wrong you are,again..
     
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    See,you called it a "job".lol
    Thanks
    As far as my flag ,you are welcome to use it as well.So long as you burn your Che t-shirt :mrgreen:
     
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    They never do.Chris Matthews,Ed Shultz,and Obama do the thinking for them.If they say they are not "real" jobs,then darnit,they really are not!
     
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    I don't know what you're trying to say. You're not likely to find states or cities with low population having high unemployment. The thought of it doesn't make sense.

    You don't have to take my word for it. Look at all the states with unemployment at 5% (Nebraska) and then compare it to a state with high unemployment around 10 % (New Jersey). There's 9 million population gap between the two states.

    Texas is the second largest state in the union. It has over 25 million people in it. 8.2 percent unemployment for that state is great compared to everywhere else.

    Okay. I don't rely on politicians to create jobs so that's fine with me. You guys are acting like Texas is the only state with high unemployment. All I'm saying is that his state is better than most states in the union when it comes to unemployment. He hasn't created many jobs, but neither has the rest of the union and neither has Obama. Perry's unemployment rate is manageable compared to most States in the Country.
     
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    I guess real jobs to the Lefties are the "shovel ready" ones :mrgreen:
     
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    Sure lets start with the list

    Alamaba : under 5 million 10% unemployment.

    Connecticut : under 4 million 9.1% unemployment

    Idaho under 2 million 9.4%

    ...

    Or are you saying 9+% is actual low unemployment?


    Wich doesnt prove a thing you handpick states 9.4% with 1.5million shows your theory wrong.


    And new york with 20 million has lower unemployment. Pennsylvania 13 million 7.4% ...

    Again there is no connection.



    Thats not at all what I was saying.

    Perry is basing part of his campaign for president to his incredibly almost miracle jobs creation "record" of texas.

    While reality show the private sector loosing jobs and the jobs he is proud of are actually created by obama or his own administration .

    read the article from oil revenues to large military bases texas has a lot of "extra's" other states dont have.
     
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    I didn't handpick any states. I picked a state with 5 percent and below and a state with 8 percent and above. And you confused what I said. There is high unemployment everywhere. I'm saying it's not likely to have unemployment lower than 5 percent and a state population which is very small.

    And what other states were you able to find with low population and unemployment 9 percent? No other states from the looks of it since it look you so long to look them up. The only other states you'll be able to find are Mississippi, Arkansas, DC most likely I guarantee you.

    Like I said, your not likely to find States with low population and high unemployment.

    New York is at 8 percent which doesn't refute what said Pennsylvania is higher than 5 percent so you've prove my point for me.


    Texas hasn't had a net loss in jobs since August of 2010 so you would be incorrect. I'd link it up BLS doesn't save searches in the form of links so I screen shot it.

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    I can explain how it works if you don't know how to read employment data.

    So the notion that Texas is losing jobs is ridiculous.

    Edit: Texas hasn't had a net loss since 2010 in October.
     
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    This is the begining of failure for TX. If it is true that they are on a economic boom. Rest assure they will create a huge government with majority of the tax dollars going to employ more teachers and administrators. In addition they will build more infrastructure like more State funded Uuniversity dorms, buildings and roads. Prices of homes will skyrocket and only the new Texans, as well as the old establishment gurus who have the real good paying jobs and wealth will continue to succeed. Fortunately TX has cattle, Oil, and other resources that will continue to grow and help their booming economy. In this respect because of the USA's inability to outsource these resources, the USA will continue to be dependent on TX for cattle, oil, and the other stuff.

    Within a decade or more, the rest of the USA will adjust to, and perhaps accept the economic infieriority that is real on this global economic earth. Also, Republicans and T-baggers will be elected, and will again run the Administrative branch as well as Congress like it did in the Booosh years. Oil, real estate, defense contrators, insurance, and banking will once again rule the country's investment and growth as well as have more power to dominate the USA for their profits. Thus, more need for beef, oil, and revenue will come from abroad. Basically, because of the higher domestic cost factor, and need for more profits on cheaper imports. Countries like Brazil, China, India, Chile, South Korea, Mexico, Argentina, and others will be supplying the lions share of intellectual work force for State Universities, and high tech corporations in electronics and bio-medical, and general engineering. These countries will also supply the USA with the majority of resources like Beef, Oil, money/finances, and capital investments from outside the USA. By this time the USA will be known as a smaller economic power than these countries that are currently surpassed the USA in education, technology, manufacturing, and banking (banking for thier countries, not private banking). In fact it will take the USA over 12 years to accept it's real status in the world. Currently other countries know where the USA is ranked.

    Eventually, other US States (other than TX), primarily the Southern US States, will start to welcome these resources, and these States will start to draw the corporations from TX. In addition, they will start to grow and expand. If they choose right and invest in low maintaince infrastructure, they may be able to manage their States financial burdens when their economies go bad. But as we all know, the greed of special interest and Government Employee Unions (Public Unions), specifically the Department of Education (DOE) in each US State, will get the lions share of the tax revenue, just as they do today. And as allways, the Tax funded DOE of each state, has no accountability on how they spend over 65% of each State's tax revenue. As a result, they will build up their Tax funded school facilities creating more schools and universities. In addition, they will increase Union membership and hire more teachers and admin staff to have even more power over the taxpayer and the State governments. And only the smart few realy know what happens to States that have done this.

    This is basically the same stuff that happened to CA. Who would ever think 15-20 years ago, that California would be in the dire situation it is in today. (Me). But the same go around with Republican/Tbagger vs Democrap politics will always show it's colors when the voting is done. That is how I evaluate the future of the USA for investment. And it seems to be pretty accurate so far. Again, you may here someone discuss this on another forum or on a public non-corporatin funded broadcast interview in a few days or a week.
     
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    Thats handpicking, you exclude the rest.

    I gave you examples of states of 8+% and they are from tiny to large thus showing your logic that smaller states will have lesser unemployment isnt correct.

    Again states with 1.5 million with 9.4% unemployment.

    There are several small with high unemployment and several large with lower then avergae unemployment.


    Why would a small state have it soo much easier?


    Thats doesnt matter, those large states and have lower unemployment . Showing what texas does (even with all the extra public jobs) isnt that impressive.


    USA in general follows the same curve, 9.8 to 9.1 nalme in roughly the same time.



    Wich I didnt say, I said private jobs. As in jobs in the private sector.
     

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