Thank God for AOC!

Wild Bill Kelsoe · May 5, 2024

Patricio Da Silva said: ↑

That was a young newbie congresswoman.

Here is the president:

"...I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in one minute and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning..." Donald Trump

If I were inclined to sound the stupid alarm, it would be on the latter.
Click to expand...

Cortez played a part in killing the Amazon facility that was being built in her state, killing 25,000+ jobs. THEN, she bragged about it...lol

Steve N · May 5, 2024

AOC meets garbage disposal.

Cybred · May 5, 2024

Wild Bill Kelsoe said: ↑

Cortez played a part in killing the Amazon facility that was being built in her state, killing 25,000+ jobs. THEN, she bragged about it...lol
Click to expand...

No she didn't.

FatBack · May 6, 2024

Cybred said: ↑

No she didn't.
Click to expand...

Yes she did, it was discussed here at the time that she had a hand in killing it.

Wild Bill Kelsoe · May 6, 2024

Cybred said: ↑

No she didn't.
Click to expand...

You bet you commie card she did...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nyc-amazon-catastrophic-job-losses

kriman · May 6, 2024

Golem said: ↑

I sincerely hope you live long enough to enjoy the benefits of her achievements.
Click to expand...

That is a depressing thought.

Surfer Joe · May 6, 2024

Wild Bill Kelsoe said: ↑

You bet you commie card she did...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nyc-amazon-catastrophic-job-losses
Click to expand...

lol…your little partisan rant by faux news is just another maga brain fart opinion pretending to be an actual fact.

kriman · May 6, 2024

Surfer Joe said: ↑

lol…your little partisan rant by faux news is just another maga brain fart opinion pretending to be an actual fact.
Click to expand...

I asked AI if it was true. This is their response:
"In response to your question, the statement you provided, “Now what I DON’T want is for our public funds to be funding freebie helipads for Amazon + robber baron billionaires,” was indeed made by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC). This statement reflects her stance on public funds being used to provide benefits or incentives to large corporations like Amazon and wealthy individuals often referred to as “robber baron billionaires.”

AOC has been vocal about her concerns regarding the use of public funds to subsidize corporations and wealthy individuals, arguing that such resources should be directed towards more pressing societal needs. Her opposition to providing what she perceives as unnecessary benefits to entities like Amazon aligns with her broader advocacy for economic justice and equitable distribution of resources.

It is important to note that this statement should be considered within the context of AOC’s overall political ideology and policy positions. AOC is known for her progressive views on issues such as income inequality, healthcare, climate change, and corporate accountability. Her statements often reflect a critique of systems that she believes perpetuate economic disparities and benefit the wealthy at the expense of the general public.

In conclusion, yes, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez did make the statement you provided regarding public funds being used for “freebie helipads” for Amazon and “robber baron billionaires,” expressing her opposition to such allocations."

So, she did oppose the move and any attempts to encourage the move which would have benefited NYC in the long run.

FatBack · May 6, 2024

It's funny how progressive just have selective amnesia and deny that something happened that we're all aware of..... Just like the one who called me a liar yesterday but didn't have the class to actually apologize when I reminded him about every single progressive on that debate stage raising their hands for free health care for illegals.

Darthcervantes · May 6, 2024

I'm reporting any violations of the OP's sig. Tread carefully!
AOC 4 lyfe!!!

independentthinker · May 6, 2024

Patricio Da Silva said: ↑

Thank God for Democrats and AOC protecting America from corporations who seek to exploit for profit public lands.
Click to expand...

Yet another post with a thousand words. Now I understand why you do this. I couldn't even reply to your post because with your OP and my short response, the site wouldn't let me post because I was over the character limit. That's what you want, isn't it? You don't want anyone countering your posts so you make them so long posters can't respond without going over the character limit. That way you think you won the debate.

Cybred · May 6, 2024

FatBack said: ↑

Yes she did, it was discussed here at the time that she had a hand in killing it.
Click to expand...

She mind controlled amazon into not accepting?

Wild Bill Kelsoe · May 6, 2024

Surfer Joe said: ↑

lol…your little partisan rant by faux news is just another maga brain fart opinion pretending to be an actual fact.
Click to expand...

Ohhh, you don't like the source?

Ok, no problem...

https://nypost.com/2023/03/04/aoc-mocked-on-twitter-after-bragging-about-killing-amazon-hq/

https://time.com/5530386/aoc-amazon-new-york-hq2/

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/22/amazon-hq-2-new-york-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-1012546

https://thehill.com/business/388311...casio-cortez-she-kills-jobs-by-the-thousands/

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/a...ew-york-as-company-cuts-jobs-it-was-worth-it/

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/14/oca...lling-nyc-hq-proves-anything-is-possible.html

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/08/politics/amazon-backlash-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/index.html

Jack Straw · May 6, 2024

She's hot. That's about it

Bowerbird · May 6, 2024

Patricio Da Silva said: ↑

Thank God for Democrats and AOC protecting America from corporations who seek to exploit for profit public lands.

This is a woman who is doing her job.

Think of the important points she raises, and what Repubs would do if they controlled the Presidency, the House, and the Senate.

I knew, all along, that when AOC matured in her job, she would be someone to reckon with, and this is proof of that contention:

AOC rebuts Republicans on the following issues:

Child Labor and Mineral Production:

Chinese Ownership of Minerals:

Responsible Mining and Battery Recycling:

Environmental Impact of GOP Bills:

Balancing Conservation and Energy Production:

Concerns about Foreign Ownership and Deregulation:

Prioritizing Public Interest over Corporate Interests:

Feel free to discuss/debate, etc. Those who violate my sig will be ignored.

(mods: the clip has no TYT org content, content is provided by the House to C-SPAN, and content is House of Rep activity, thus 'public domain')

Transcript:

Rep Chip Roy:
Representative Ocasio-Cortez, what do you say to that point?
Right. When we've got significant amount of evidence that,
China owns the vast majority, if not all, 80% plus of the, cobalt mine production coming out of Congo, etc.. And we know, I think it's irrefutable that there's child labor exploited
to get those minerals. Those minerals are central, if not fully necessary, for the production of EVs, which even objectively, we have to acknowledge are not fully able to power
the ability of the American public to get to their jobs and their work and so forth.
And yet we're mandating that we have two thirds of the production be EVs by 2030,
assume we were able to ever produce batteries that last long enough
to charging stations, all the stuff. Why would we get rid of the American production of it?

Rep AOC:
Thank you.
There are several different components to your question.
I want to make sure that I address them first and foremost on the issue of child
exploitation, child labor, I think it is the role of the United States
for us to push back forcefully on, on this production and not just in the production
of energy, but across the board.We see this in textile production, energy production, cobalt mining. It is horrific, and we need to make sure that our sources do not,
do not include child labor, but to get to your the core of the question two
on the China front is that I find it interesting that there is this concern
about Chinese ownership of minerals. And it is it is legitimate.
However, the response to that seems to be deregulation specifically
for companies that are largely Chinese owned here in the United States.
These companies are subsidiaries where the benefit of what we are deregulating here.
And I'll give you a specific example, I --you know, I would be remiss not to mention
that the minerals produced specifically at the proposed Twin Metals mine
that is implicated in this legislation would most likely be shipped to China
for refining and smelting to be sold on the global market.
These are not American owned companies that this that American mined
minerals would be going to. And so if your concern is the Chinese predominance of ownership in the mining in the mining market, I would be very concerned about passing this legislation so that I think on the China piece there.
And lastly, on the meeting our targets and mining cobalt, I think it's
a false choice to say that in order for us to mine cobalt, we either have to destroy
some of the most sacred lands in the United States or rely on child labor.
There's responsible mining in the United States that is available to us.
But secondly, it also---I also find it interesting that the majority presently
pushes back against battery recycling, which would allow us to open the path
to reducing our reliance on mining in general. There is enormous potential in recycling many of these EV batteries, but we have not made the investments or the shifts necessary in order to unlock that, so that we can reduce our reliance on on solely mining as the only source of battery.

Rep Michael Burgess (committee chairman):
For far too long, the Biden administration has used people when unelected federal officials to enact their radical agenda. Our constituents and American industry have paid the price. House Republicans are committed to ending the weaponization
of the bureaucratic state, and that's why we're taking up several bills
to roll back executive branch overreach. H.R. 764, the Trust of Science Act, de-list the gray wolf as an endangered species, marking a successful story of conservation and stewardship. H.R. 6285, Alaska's Right to to Produce Act H.R. 3195, the Superior National Forest Restoration Act, and H.R. 2925, the Mining Regulatory Clarity Act will remove roadblocks set up by radical officials to hinder American energy production.
Finally, H.R. 615, the Protecting Access for Hunters and Anglers Act,
will prevent the Biden administration from barring the use of certain ammunition
or tackle on public lands.

Rep AOC
You know, Earth Day was just last week, but the celebration is clearly over with Fossil Fuel Week that seems to be presented with many of these bills. It's astounding how House Republicans continue to push an agenda that people are simply not asking for. They voted to cut veterans benefits, raise costs, and, like we're seeing today, enrich the wealthiest corporations, especially the fossil fuel industry.
To the ranking members point, one good thing that we can say about these
bills is that they have no choice. They have no chance of becoming law. They are going nowhere in the Senate. And nevertheless, though we have six bills before us, so let's get into them.

H.R. 6285 would fast track drilling for oil and gas in the pristine Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and the Bering Sea. We're going to hear about how we need to destroy these places to help with energy prices, but that is simply not true. The United States is already the number one producer of oil and the number one producer and exporter of gas. All that has all that has done is increase carbon emissions and enrich an industry that is already seeing record profits. Meanwhile, consumers still face volatile prices. That's for two reasons. The first is price gouging by the oil and gas industry, and the second is that oil and gas are global commodities. No amount of endless drilling can shield us from price shocks when OPEC decides to raise prices, or when Russia decides to start a war in Europe.

If we want energy independence, we should be transitioning to solar, wind,
geothermal and other clean energy sources that aren't subject to those kinds
of shocks and that creates that create good union jobs right here at home.
Oil and gas already enjoy an obscene wealth of tax giveaways in this country,
special loopholes and other subsidies as well. But we're supposed to believe that if we continue to let them drill just a little more, that they will finally lower their prices.

It--This is all trickle down nonsense. This bill is is a giveaway to some of the wealthiest and most damaging polluters in the United States. And then we have the mining bills. Our existing mining law is outdated and bad enough as it is. The one frail guardrail guardrail that we currently have is that currently a mining claim is only valid if it contains valuable minerals. Makes sense. There has to actually be something there to mine.
H.R. 2925 gets rid of that requirement, making it so that anyone can get exclusive
rights to our public lands for about $10 per acre per year, permanently locking up
almost any public land without there even being a valuable mineral deposit.
Then the claimant can conduct whatever, quote, mining related activities
they want, including burying the land in toxic mining waste.

Plus, the bill rolls out the welcome mat for quote unquote nuisance claims by bad
actors who want to lock land up from being used for conservation or renewable energy
unless someone buys them out. Meanwhile, H.R. 3195 would allow toxic sulfide or copper mining in the Superior National Forest just outside the pristine Boundary Waters
Canoe Area Wilderness in Minnesota. The Forest Service already looked into this and concluded that the mine could result in, and I quote, extreme, serious and irreparable harm to the watershed of this wilderness area. These bills are total giveaways to wealthy corporate polluters. It's climate denialism, pure and simple.

That theme continues with H.R. 3397, which would repeal the Bureau
of Land Management's Public Lands Rule. The bureau has a multiple use mandate that requires striking a balance between all potential uses. Of the 245 million surface acres of the people's lands that it manages, including commercial, recreational, and conservation activities. The new regulation finally ensures that conservation is on equal footing
with uses like oil and gas development, timber, livestock grazing and mining.
The rule also standardizes and provides guidance for related tools like conservation leases. It does not prevent responsible energy development, including renewable energy projects and building transmission lines. But this bill would repeal the rule because putting conservation on equal footing with fossil fuels is apparently too much to ask.

Next is H.R. 764, the Orwellian named Trust the Science Act. According to this bill, the science says that Congress should silence conservation experts and mandate that the iconic gray wolf be delisted under the Endangered Species Act. Somehow, I think that's not what the science really says. The last time the wolf was delisted, we saw states set up harvest quotas and even cash bounties for killing these animals, even their pups. And finally, we have H.R. 615, which would ban the Bureau of Land Management, the Forest Service, and the Fish and Wildlife Service from prohibiting or regulating lead, ammunition or tackle on federal lands or waters, even though alternatives do exist that do not poison everything in sight. Right now we have a climate crisis, student loans burdening our youth and our economy, health care costs to deal with. But this and this set of bills is what Republicans are currently doing in the waning days of their majority. They're putting forward an agenda brought to you by GOP guns, oil and polluter polluters. It's not too late to put up a better schedule for the House this week. I oppose these these bills and yield back.

Rep Mary Scanlon:
I am very concerned that these bills are a huge step back for our environment
and our endangered species. They seem to be predicated on a false kind of a binary choice. And I don't think it's true that President Biden or Democrats or the American people have any interest in having a blanket prohibition on development.
But we we do want a system that fairly takes into account public safety, conservation and the damage to our environment and our children's future if we aren't taking those into consideration. So can you comment on that?

Rep AOC;
- Absolutely Representative Scanlon, as you noted, particularly in the public land rule,
specifically the this shift in the rule is not even to put conservation and restoration above, you know, energy production, recreation or any other considerations.
It's simply to allow the consideration to be on equal footing. And I would I would emphatically push back on the notion that conservation is just simply cordoning off, that this rule is just about conservation and cordoning off several acres of land and saying, there's nothing to be done here.

But this is also about land restoration. And there are so many acres of land, federal lands, public lands. This is land that belongs to the people of the United States of America that has been dumped on, that has been allowed to be overridden with toxic waste, that people are getting sick from, that species are becoming endangered from.
And to allow that to simply be an equal consideration, as the federal government
and the Bureau of Land Management doles out and makes decisions oftentimes
affirmatively about energy production, I think is eminently reasonable.

Rep Mary Scanlon:
I think that makes a lot of sense that we're trying to balance some competing concerns, but that we really do need to take into account these conservation concerns. So I would yield back.

Rep Leger-Fernandez:
This is the problem is we keep hearing from the Republicans that they're about America first, right? We keep hearing that they're not, you know, that they want to take on China, but then they when they have a chance, they do not do it.
This bill does nothing to stop China or Russia or any other foreign corporations.
As much as I might like Canada, Canadian corporations are some of the
biggest corporations mining our resources and not giving the American people a dime.
And that's what bothers me about this. All kinds of things that bother me.
But representative Ocasio-Cortez, you wanted to respond to some of this?

Rep AOC:
.
Click to expand...

Lols! This is the woman the right has repeatedly tried to characterise as “stupid”. What gets me is when you compare her to someone like MTG - AOC brings the receipts with her. She has done her homework and is prepared

StillBlue · May 7, 2024

MTG has found that the crazier the better for making the news so makes no effort to actually advance any meaningful legislation. I hope conservatives get past this.

Log in or Sign up

Thank God for AOC!

Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

Cybred Well-Known Member

FatBack Well-Known Member

Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

FatBack Well-Known Member

Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

independentthinker Well-Known Member

Cybred Well-Known Member

Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

Jack Straw Newly Registered

Bowerbird Well-Known Member

StillBlue Well-Known Member

Share This Page

Log in or Sign up

Thank God for AOC!

Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

Cybred Well-Known Member

FatBack Well-Known Member

Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

FatBack Well-Known Member

Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

independentthinker Well-Known Member

Cybred Well-Known Member

Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

Jack Straw Newly Registered

Bowerbird Well-Known Member

StillBlue Well-Known Member

Share This Page

Useful Searches