Thanks to Joe Biden the Taliban Now has Over 200 Military Aircraft — Ranks them as #26 in List of Na

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  1. Condor060

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    It has been a long time since I studied the aircraft of the Russians or the Chinese but last I checked avionics was the weak part of both of them.
     
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    So Biden had all this knowledge gained when he was VP, coupled with up to date info from the crop of present advisers yet manage to not to remove the civilians early and stop this kind of cluster fluck. Biden is senile.
     
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    I don't know how ISIS got into the Taliban controlled Afghanistan going on some killing spree and 12 Americans were killed. Biden swears revenge on Isis for this.
     
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    Intelligence agencies had said the Afghan military would hold for a minim minimum of three months and they had been advising Americans to leave for months.

    No one knew the Afghan military was going to immediately surrender and the president flee. If you did you should share your knowledge with our intelligence agencies (and maybe buy a powerball).
     
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    I have a flight simulator in my home and I am currently building one with the front end of real UH-1 in my shop using 4 4k projectors on a 240 degree curved screen that is around 6 ft high.

    When I fly Russian aircraft it feels clunky.

    I just sold the one in my home to build the bigger one and I made a video of it if your interested. I built the smaller one to learn how to overlap multiple projectors before moving on to the large setup.

     
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    If they've been disabled they wont be able to fly them!
     
  8. Robert

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    WHAT? Biden gave it all away.
     
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    Would this be the same intelligence agencies that decided to wait until the Taliban was taking over the city before evacuating?
     
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    Unequivocally false.
     
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    They have been issuing notices for month to leave. No one headed their words because they thought they would have a few months after the military pullout to evacuate.

    What do you feel the US should have done to the aid workers and military contractors that refused to leave until it was too late?
     
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    Nobody said anything about civilians, aid workers, and military contractors.
    The question was
    Would this be the same intelligence agencies that decided to wait until the Taliban was taking over the city before evacuating?
     
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    Again, they had been giving notice for months that people needed to leave. How could they evacuate prior to their being an issue? How could they force people to leave?
     
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    Answer to this post is simple ... BULLSHIT!

    # 01 - Have you ever considered what types of aircraft these are? Apparently not ... otherwise you wouldn't have made this post!
    # 02 - Have you thought about the fact that the planes need trained maintenance staff and, above all, spare parts ... which can only be obtained incredible expensive at best through dark black market channels? Apparently not ... otherwise you wouldn't have made this post!

    It is now just ridiculous and shameful how the political right in the US is trying to beat Biden with all sorts of bullshit of lies and stupid claims.
    If you righties still had a trace of credibility after 4 years of Trump left, then this will melt away more and more with such actions as here and just turn you into lying clowns ...
     
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    This list might be correct ... seems so in my eyes ... but you know that the US didn't let them left behind, but handed them over to the ANA and ANP as equipement?
    and you know that the US did do so nearly always when leaving a war and country by giving the local allies their stuff instead bringing them back home?
     
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    Biden withdrew the American air cover/over watch command & control that the Afghan military relied on to conduct operations, leaving them with their butts hanging out in the cold. Not even Obama could be this absurdly unqualified and political.

    That fact is that the Taliban now has advanced American war fighting equipment - because of decisions a senile fool made, out of intellectually adolescent spite - but thank God we don't have a President that tweets mean tweets anymore, huh?

    A few thousand dead Americans and Afghan friendlies is just the price the families of same must pay to satisfy democrat's nutty political agenda.
     
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    Not none of them. The point is that things like helicopters, armored vehicles and large planes, especially ours, are designed to operate from a very large support base that is constantly doing maintenance checks and swapping parts. Of course there's Afghans that can do it, but do you really think the Taliban is going to maintain the massive support base necessary to keep that stuff serviceable? Hell, its hard enough just making sure folks check the fluids now and then in any vehicle they don't actually own without a cumbersome bureaucracy in place to make them do it. I doubt much of that stuff will be 'battle ready' even a year from now.
     
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    Honestly the united states should fly in and destroy all the aircraft.
     
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    hmmm, so you have the actual facts as to what US arms were left behind? Do tell oh omnipotent one

    Democrat votes have consequences. You should stand proud of your Democrat vote
     
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    LOL You've ran away from your claim that the Taliban have UH-60L and MD530G aircraft, you know, where you said I should ask the Pentagon.

    Oh and yes ancient:
    The UH-60s for Afghanistan are all older A models upgraded to be as close as possible to the UH-60L variant, primarily by replacing the engines, but still without digital flight management systems and other updates found on newer U.S. military models. Though the update is supposed to reset the lifespan of the airframes, these "new" UH-60A+ Black Hawks for the Afghan Air Force may actually be older than its Mi-17s.
    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...hurt-its-warfighting-ability-in-the-near-term

    And why would the Chinese or Russians be interested in these ancient aircraft that do not have any "digital flight management systems" when they can just ask their allies, Lebanon, who have new fully equipped MD-530Gs


    LOL You are the one who wrote "

    "You mean like the software for the Encrypted IFF recognition system
    You mean like the software for the APR-39 radar warning receiver
    You mean like the software for the ALQ-144 infrared countermeasures system
    You mean like the software for target acquisition on the HellFire missile system
    You mean like the software for the Hover IR suppression system (HIRSS)


    And now you have run away from that too.


    Oh dear, you have forgotten post 68!

    Yep and shown there was no high spec military gear left behind

    And now some more info:
    https://www.defensenews.com/air/202...ess-to-us-military-aircraft-now-what-happens/

    Only the naive would think that the US would give away high tech military hardware to a unstable government
     
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    No they don't!
     
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    Do you understand the Gravity? Biden does not. Biden had the means to plan for the protection of all of our men.
    America lost as many to the enemy on this day as in a number of previous years in total.

    First if Biden thinks it is ISIS, why can't he say that. Second you will not restore a single life killing others at this point. Still he needs to do something since Biden looks so damned weak in the saddle. He is tipping over.
     
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    Your attempt to use the events in Afghanistan to blame Biden speaks loudly as to your in depth and cutting edge foreign policy analysis. Thank you so much for sharing.
     
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    The Russians left a lot of military equipment behind as well. The cost of maintaining all this military equipment is well beyond any Afghan budget.



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    That is what Biden should do.
     

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