The American Media Have Given Americans a False Image of Gaddafi

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  1. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    They've always wanted to go in and get Libya's oil so they had to paint Gaddafi as a villain so they'd have a story to tell the American people.

    I live in Europe and I speak to Africans here. They've always said that the Libyan people don't hate Gaddafi. He saved Libya from being a colony when he took power in a coup and the oil money was then used for the good of the Libyan people instead of being stolen by western capitalists. This article and video explain it.
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Global_Secrets_Lies/Qaddafi_NWO.html
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trhcKP53r4U

    Be sure to read the comment section of that YouTube video.

    If Gaddafi can be connected to any violence, it was part of the struggle for the independence of the third world.

    Do searches on Libya in these two sites to get some objective articles.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/

    The American media give an upside down version of the world situation.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/history-past-politicians/149071-american-imperialism.html

    The US is considered the "Bad guys" in the third world.

    Here's some stuff about the lying American media.
    http://www.thismodernworld.org/arc/1993/93short-attention-span.gif
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=chomsky+media&aq=f
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=Wi5h3vZl6uo
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=William+Schaap++-+The+Media,+CIA,+FBI+&+Disinfo.+&aq=f
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/MediaControl_Chomsky.html
    http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199710--.htm
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/media_watch.html
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Propaganda/Propaganda_page.html
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media_control_propaganda/Media_Control.html
    http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/official_culture.htm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=trWcqxrQgcc
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman /Propaganda_System_One.html
     
  2. Scott

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    I just found another good video.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYjgh5243eg"]What the ROTHSCHILDS dont want you to know about Gadaffi and Libya - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Hahahaha.. Check the facts. Hess ,Marathon, TOTAL, ENI, Occidental, Dutch Shell, Synopec, Conoco Philips were al operating lucrative oil operations in Libya before the Arab Spring.

     
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    Could you provide a link to your info? If it turns out that those companys were doing some stuff in Libya, it's still possible that they wanted to do even more. Lots of that oil money was still going to free education and medical care for libyans. In classic American and European imperialism the western companies get all the money and the people of the country live in poverty. It's possible that this war was for the rest of the money if what you say turns out to be true. If the Libyan government really represented the libyan people, it would have made only fair deals–the companies had the technology and Libya had the oil. Maybe they'd made something like a fifty-fifty deal.
     
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    There are dozen thread that provide the information you ask for.

    The US and Europeans had NOTHING to do with the contracts.. The oil contracts were between those companies and Khadafi as the ruler of Libya.

    The oil companies take ALL the risk in exploration and facilities development and start paying oil revenues to the government when the oil production reaches a commercial level. The oil companies have NO say in how the Libyan government spends their money.

    Libya's per capita income is about $12,000 a year so don't be unduly influenced by free education etc.. Khadafi was not developing needed infrastructure. He was giving the people just a little... but he was funding every rebel faction in Africa because he wanted to be King of All Africa.

    He also skimmed off 120 million dollars for himself personally.
     
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    If you know which ones they are, could you provide one?

    Don't you think the US government would help them better their situation? They certainly would like to go back to what they had before Gaddafi, wouldn't they?

    What do you think of this article?
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Global_Secrets_Lies/Qaddafi_NWO.html
     
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    Me, I spoke with Mrs. Zagalli. Her husband was shot in the head by an assassin hired by Khaddafi. Mr. Zagalli survived.

    I know you'll be shocked but she and her husband both harbored some ill will for Khaddafi. The other Libyan students who were called home and disappeared left familes that weren't oo happy, either.

    I know it's fun to make the U.S. the Great Satan but it really doesn't work with Khaddafi.
     
  8. Scott

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    Firstly, how do we know you're telling the truth? Secondly, how can we be sure that the person who shot him didn't work for the CIA and that this wasn't a plot of theirs to discredit Gaddafi?
     
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    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,953172,00.html

    Most people posting are familiar with the amazing Google. Of course, for some seriously slow people it's tough to use.

    Of course, it was a plot to discredit Quaddafi. Isn't it always? The vicious nitwits always blame, absent any evidence, it's all a plot. I love the way the undercover operatives in Occupy Oakland all dress in black, wear black masks and wave black masks. Sneaky bastards.

    Next time you want to call me a liar, check Google so you don't appear to be a total nitwit driven by a retarded ideology.
     
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    Sounds like your African friends aren't very bright..

    Idris united the tribes and gained freedom from the Italians. They had a constitution from 1951 thru 1969 when Khadafi took power..

    He nationalized the oil business and drove it straight into the ground.. Production down by half.ever since.

    No one has been stealing Libyan oil.. Marathon, BP, Dutch Shell, TOTAL, ENI, Hess, Occidental, Conoco Philips were all working in Libya on revenue shares to the Libyan government.. anywhere from 50-50 to 70-30.

    Libya had some social programs but most of the money went to Khadafi not development of infrastructure.. and Khadafi invested in everything from chicken ranches to rebel groups all over Africa.




     
  11. Scott

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    Your source is Time magazine. The American mainstream press is the worst place to get info. Go check out the links on the media in my first post.

    Is your source of information the American mainstream press? If it is, do you blindly believe it?

    I'm not in a position to know exactly what happened back then as I wasn't there. I've lived abroad for more that twenty years and I've spoken with people from Latin America, the Philippines, and Africa. The articles in the website where I got this article...
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Global_Secrets_Lies/Qaddafi_NWO.html

    ...are all consitent with what those people tell me. Tell us why you're so sure your sources are correct.
     
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    How does this relate to North Korea?

    The North Koreans put out a strong propaganda to people in the West that their country is free and prosperous, and that they are merely the victims of western propaganda and lies.
     
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    you don't see america or europe rushing in to save people in Syria do you? I just think there is more to this story
     

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