The American people had enough of far-left policies being shoved down their throats

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  1. dairyair

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    Supported by what?
     
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    You talk in generalities, rant words, weasel words.

    Not my thing.
     
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    There was no threat of 'soviet expansion' in Nicaragua beyond some advisors, which is the sole predication for your finding Reagan' behavior as acceptable.

    During their war against the Nicaraguan government, the Contras committed numerous human rights violations and used terrorist tactics.[1][2][3][4][5] source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contras

    You seem to think it's okay to overthrow governments you disagree with, which is what was motivating Reagan. That policy is now no longer an acceptable policy for America.
     
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    LOL Code for: "okay, you got me!"

    Seriously though .. you need to start thinking this stuff through, instead of running blindly with an ideology you don't appear to have questioned. Who is winning? Is it the people .. so ably 'supported' by the Welfare State this century? Or is it the corporatists and elites, who grow ever richer on the deep dependence of the people?
     
  5. Patricio Da Silva

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    Please don't put words in my mouth, i.e., make stuff up.

    What has to be reversed is neoliberalism, more than anything.

    The 'welfare state', no doubt, needs improvements. .

    Entitlements, those that are just, the just entitlements, are necessary for a civilization to be a civilization.

    Neoliberalism is why corporations, at the expense of the little guy are winning, Neoliberalism is why anti-trust laws are not being enforced, why Elizabeth Warren's Consumer Financial Protection Bureau was emasculated under Trump, and on and on, why Clinton signed the Commodity Future's Modernization Act (deregulating derivatives, which was, more than any other policy, the straw that broke the camel's back which caused the crash of 2008).

    https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/noam-chomsky-neoliberalism-destroying-democracy/

     
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    I haven't a clue what it is you're asking.
     
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    1) Neoliberalism is never going away. If you don't like it, don't service it. Take back your power.

    2) No, it needs eradication. It's a sinister trojan horse, designed to disable.

    3) There's nothing civilised about a society of individuals, all working purely in their own immediate interests. Which is exactly what you get in a Welfare State. Civility means accepting that most of us need a team to survive - and that teamwork means compromise, conformity, obligation, and responsibility. All the things the Welfare State has convinced us to abandon.

    4) The elites and corporatists are winning because we've been enabled to depend upon them for our survival.
     
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    Elites and corporatists are winning because they've bought the Republican party.
     
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    Your SS proposal, how does it work? How's it different than now?
     
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    So, you are a neoliberal. No help for those who cannot help themselves, right?
     
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    OMG

    Dude, this is much bigger than America. And it's the same process wherever you find it - Western Govts are in service to the elites, and the Welfare State is the weapon of choice.
     
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    That's only going to happen if your society has abandoned all social responsibility, and thinks itself too special for mutual obligation. Is that the society you have?

    Since we know the answer is YES, now ask yourself why that is.
     
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    I don't agree with your premise.

    But you do support the concept?

    Even Milton Friedman, the famous libertarian economist, supported a negative income tax.

    I like that idea. It conforms nicely to my liberal/libertarian view.
     
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    The American people had enough of far-left policies being shoved down their throats
    This thread is now ironically posted on PF followed immediately by Lee Atwater's thread, "Get used to it." You can't make this stuff up!
     
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    1) You think your society is high in social and personal responsibility, conformity, and mutual obligation? Wow.

    2) What concept?
     
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    It appears you are equating helping those who cannot help themselves as being a society low in social and personal responsibility.

    That's a bogus premise.
     
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    This has nothing to do with the disabled and frail elderly etc. I'm talking about everyone else.
     
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    which you assume is a majority of persons on entitlements, for which you have no evidence.

    we've been down this road before.
     
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    In my country, the unemployment benefit is a separate thing to disability and age benefits. Obviously, those on unemployment benefits are not disabled or aged.
     
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    The directors are listed as Sarah and Emlly Kunstler, those familiar with the 1960's and 1970's political unrest get only one guess who their father is:
     
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    How said anything about unemployment benefits?
     
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    The American People are sick of the shrill divisiveness and the constant hateful attacks on the American People accusing us of racism for simply breathing, terrorism for speaking up at school board meetings. Biden actually called Republicans and Democrats who wouldn't sacrifice a 215 year old institution in the Senate, "Domestic Enemies". Sadly, Mitch McConnell and Mitt Romney shared with the American People that this crazed shrieking old man is not the man they have long served with. He has become so demented and degenerate that he is no longer recognizable as the dear friend they have worked with for so many years.

    And the inflation, my goodness, from all the red ink spending.

    Yikes: Wholesale inflation spikes up to new record 9.7% for 2021
    NOT TRANSITORY
    We've heard claims here of "record profits" which is folks parroting the "messaging" of the paid WH liars. We'll see when we get 4Q earnings reports, given that Corporate cost hikes are even higher than consumer cost hikes, I'm unconvinced.

    Here's the problem. This is a SUPPLY SIDE CRISIS. Handling it will require MORE supply, especially through the crippled supply chain that no one in the Biden Administration seems to want to address and fix when there are "racist overpasses" to prattle on about and paternity leave to take as these critical systems clog and dysfunction.

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    Exactly, the likely response to Dementia Joe's pincher on business, shrieking lies that they are "price gouging" when actually their input costs have skyrocketed due to his screw ups, will be for them to cut the costs they need to expand supply. Then the Demented Biden Administration with shriek, blame, and finger-point some more, and their screw-ups spiral and reinforce the damage even more.

    And right on cue US News & World Report jobless claims 'unexpectedly' rise: The cascading Biden screw ups now have companies cutting more marginal employees, when we need them to be adding more.
    What a mess. Biden was so happy to sign that stack of EO's on his first day to immediately undo so many of the benefits Trump had brought by putting Americans First. Now Biden is shrieking that those that oppose his crazy demands are "Domestic Terrorists." Who was the idiot in this idiotic WH that thought that was smart to type on a teleprompter? Who even thinks like that?

    Inflation isn’t "transitory" and likely will result in recession. This was a very bad time to elect a shrieking hateful idiot and put him in a position where he can do real damage to the American People.

    But yes, Americans are sick of this idiocy being shoved down our throats, the GOP/Independents/Sensible Democrats have all had enough.
     
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    I'm talking about unemployment benefits only - not age & disability pensions.
     
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    Even Caitlyn Jenner Wants to Protect Women’s Sports From Trans Wokeism.

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    A sensible, credible voice on the issue.​
    Then she began stating simple truths:
    Part of what is disgusting about part of the political spectrum is their insistence that plain truths cannot be stated and lies must be stated as truth.

    Can they see which fingers are sticking up?
     

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