The Baneful Apocalyptic Triad of USA, Israel and Saudi Arabia

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is not only a difference from the US Gov'ts point of view. There are a large contingent of Israeli's that are upset at the way Palestinians are treated.

    In the case of Israel you have people that are oppressed .. and acting out against this oppression. You have a nation state that has committed numerous acts of terror against a people over many decades.

    This does not mean I agree with someone strapping bombs to themselves and killing others - but, it is not the same as the ISIS animals who kill others who have done nothing to them.

    There is a difference between war against an oppressor and .. killing people simply because they do not share your extremist ideology.
     
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    They are all "oppressors" to the guy that goes to blow himself and reach Heaven, he wouldnt reach Heaven if they were'nt, your sense of justice doesnt reach Iraq or Syria, they dont care for "Israeli crimes" as you say they only care for Assad crimes and they use the same path to martyrdom as some Palestinians do, you think Germany and France would agree on borders if they kept sending terrorists to bomb each other civilians for so long ? this is not a "normal" resistance - it leaves no room for normalization and co-existance,
    I dont see a diffrence between a terrorist that want a Caliphate across Syria and Iraq and one that wants one across Israel, threats they make on Egyptians or thrats on Israel - the reasons are diffrent I agree but its the same fanatic line and crazy demands one cannot agree to and must fight, now you cherish terrorists in one place but condeming them in another - doesnt work, but dont take my word for it - just watch the world around you, the suicide Industry is already fully automatic.
     
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    There are major differences. Hezbollah is not running all over the world blowing themselves up for example. Their actions are mostly confined to the blood feud they have been engaged in for the last 50 years.
     
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    They dont all fit the profile but between those who do there is no diffrence and it comes from same source basiclly
     
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    Wonder what sock puppet this poster is of a banned prior iteration.

    That said, when will iran stop funding terrorst groups like hezbollah, hamas, the iraqi militias, houthi rebels, etc? When will iran stop trying to undermine arab muslim governments around the region?
     
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    Why are terrorist attacks against jews in Israel more acceptable than against anyone else?

    If I was to make a list of all of the murdered people by iran's hands, we'd be here for days.
     
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    You discuss objectivity while claiming syria and iran are democracies?
     
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    From one of the forum's top iran apologists. Does khameini pat you on the head for each of your nice posts about iran's "democracy"?

    Something tells me few things satisfy you more.
     
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    So was the shah, does being secular make a 50-year family dynasty less murderous?
     
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    Can you re-enter the real world and stop posting such nonsense?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Abu-Ageila_(1967)

    "Israeli troops numbered about 14,000. Egyptian troop strengths have been estimated at 8,000.[1]"
     
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    You actually claiming hezbollah has not committed terrorism outside lebanon LOL? Read a newspaper.
     
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    There is a difference between killing people who have done something to deserve that aggression - such as the case of the blood feud between Israel and the Palestinians - and going out and killing people simply because they do not share your particular extremist belief.
     
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    What makes terror attacks by the US or Israel or Saudi Arabia more acceptable that that committed by Iran ?
     
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    Not necessarily ... Stalin was not a theocrat and he killed many as well. You missed the point.
     
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    I never made any such claim Mr. Strawman.
     
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    Really.....all those ppl killing and bombing in Syria and Iraq are doing it because they disagree on the Quran ? not because they too think they are being oppresed ? maybe you should go tell them they are just being a bunch of *******s and be done with it ? forgive me fo asking but I must - how can you be so arrogant when you know the only intel you have is coming from the media and you "dare" to rank morality of terror attacks based on that ? you know better than the ppl that live there ?
     
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    Spare me your obtuse and ignorant nonsene. The wanton killing of civilians by the IDF was getting so bad that at one point a bunch of Israeli pilots refused to fly.

    "The 27 pilots sent a letter to the commander of Israel's airforce refusing to carry out duties, which include track and kill operations, in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. One of the pilots told Israeli television that the letter said: "

    "We, veteran pilots and active pilots alike...are opposed to carrying out illegal and immoral attacks, of the type carried out by Israel in the territories.

    "We, who have been educated to love the state of Israel refuse to take part in airforce attacks in civilian population centres. We refuse to continue harming innocent civilians."
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/sep/25/israel

    How did the Christians communities attacked by Islamist Jihadists in Syria do anything similar to the above ?
     
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    lol like we have a shortage of videos on Assad-Russia-Iran atrocities to "justify" terror against them as you do on Israel, Iran in Yemen, KSA in Yemen, Turkey on the Kurds, Europe ? they are not bombing empty buildings right ?
    You justify one - you justify all.
     
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    Russia is supporting the elected and legitimate governments in Syria and Iran, can we say the same? I don't think so which means all this talk about democracy by the US is nothing but garbage. I mean how about a little honesty here? We don't want democracy, we want governments that will support Washington and will impose our liberal system and standards on other countries.

    In the meantime the nations with governments who do impose our standards in deference to the will of their own people are referred to as the 'free world'. Boy what an oxymoron. :roll:
     
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    What US terror attacks are you speaking of?
     
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    I have not been justifying Russian-Assad-Iran atrocities - Mr Strawman. It is you that is trying to justify the atrocities of Israel and the US.

    Can you not post without attributing false statements to me ?
     
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    Dropping bombs which have large civilian casualties.
     

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