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  1. Margot2

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    Lies by amateurs. There was no water 3500 years ago. Everybody walked back and forth to Egypt every time there was drought in Palestine.
     
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    Are you saying there was no water erosion,
    They have pictures of it.
    Are you saying those kids are lying.
    Sure didn't look like it.
     
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    Yes about 12,000 years ago.
     
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    Only coming out of one place, huh,
    We don't know when this happened.
    All we can do to date it, is to look at the pictorial writing.
    It happened before written Hebrew.
     
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    The geology of Arabia has been thoroughly studied because of Aramco.
     
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    So what.

    How did the water erosion under the split rock get there.
     
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    Could also be wind erosion from shamals.
     
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    LOLLO

    Sorry, wind erosion is different than water erosion.
     
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    The problem is to many similarities.
    There are no concrete answers,
    It needs a full archeological dig, and not by the Saudi's, by the westerners.
     
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    Lol. That's what the Saud does. They put a fence around something to keep the amateurs and crackpots until they can assemble a joint venture team.. sometimes with Danes or Germans. You haven't spent any time in Arabia, have you?
     
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    LOLOL
    The west hardly is amateurs and crackpots.

    And Saudi is not doing a damn thing.
     
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    ;
     
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    You have no clue. You haven't seen any of their excellent univsities or science centers or acharchaeological exhibits.... Or even King abdulaziz cust..or their Hy solar research or applicationa.
     
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    LOLOL You have no clue.
    They are not going to post something that goes against Islam.

    The west has the best to offer in the world.
     
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    ... that's why schools like Harvard have programs in arabia
     
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    So what, this has nothing to do with what was already discovered.
    You can't even make a valid argument.
     
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    KSA has remarkable earth science exhibits that show tectonics, volcanoes and changes over millions of years in the Arabian peninsula. And at each interactive station there is small brass plaque with a creation verse from the Koran.
     
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    So what.
     
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    They don't have any problems with science right along side religion. You are such an expert without ever setting foot in KSA.
     
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    Yes they do.
    Anything that conflicts with the Qur'an, is suppressed.

    Before you go on some bullsh-t rant.

    Tell me something they discovered that conflicts with Qur'anic teachings, that they talk about.
     
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    No it isn't. You have never seen their science and technology centers or their University of petroleum and minerals, Mr expert.
     
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    We can't date it by its 'pictorial or cunieform' writng. This goes right back to circa 3500 BCE. Hebrew doesn't exist before circa 1000BCE or even later. The earliest known writing in Hebrew was around 800BCE, So that gives us well over 2000 years to date any Exodus. Like to take a guess?

    If only the scribes of the 7th century exile had known the Pharaohs name - but they didn't. Just as they didn't know that when Abraham was supposedly in Egypt he could not have seen the Pharaoh. The ruling one of the time was far away in the Upper Kingdom, ruling from Thebes. They knew a few Pharaohs and threw their names in the origin story for effect. And that has confused speculation down the centuries. And no mention in Egyptian records of all the first born Egyptian sons dying? Of giving their former slaves their gold, silver, jewellery and livestock.

    In the film one man says it was so hot they had to get out. And an exodus of thousands of people survived 40 years in this desert?. No water. No food.

    Only coming out of one place, How do you know? did they look for other places. This just happened to fit their ideas. What about pebbles? They didn't mention any. Did they look for them. They are indications of water activity - even thousands of years ago. In the UK we have caves that were worn away by water action thousands of years ago. Since that time they have dried up and been used by cavemen/hunter-gatherers whose relics of flint etc. and bodies have been found. . I suggest that, if one was allowed, other indications of water erosion would be found.
     
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    You have to watch the video.
    The water erosion I am referring to, flows from the split rock, nowhere else.
    And apparently the water had to run for a while to do it,
    so this part may not have been the desert we imagine.
    But the water well had to be artificially made.
    ( Jack and Jill, didn't go "UP" the hill to get a pail of water).

    A bunch of stuff happened here, there is no doubt of that.
    apparently, some pretty strange stuff.
    The similarities to the Moses story leads me, and others, to believe,
    this is where it came from, and was written into what we have now, in the Jewish bible.
    However, these were not Hebrews, or it happened long before the Aramaic and Hebrew languages, were developed.
    Or any written language for that matter.

    We have a lot of strange happenings, all over the earth around now.
     
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    It's not real.
    Even the Shia have his grave.
    Muslims tag various things, but there is no connection to reality.

    The reality is that nobody knows if he existed at all.
    Someone probably did to set the model.
    The first writings show up 125 years after the fact

    Supposedly the first time in History he shows up, is 60 years after the fact, and it is from a Christian source.
    They speak of "The Mahood", a title and not a proper name meaning "The chosen one".
    A title shared by Mary, Joseph, Jesus, and the 5th calief Malick.
    However there is no mention of, Muhammed, Islam, the Qur'an, Muslims, just "The godless pagans".

    Malick had to re conquer Mecca, as the people reverted back to their ways before Muhammed.


    The reality is that there is no record of Muhammed until one was invented hundreds of years later.
    They even have his genealogy, his family tree, all the way back to Ishmael
     
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