The birth of Jesus...Even children get it.

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  1. jedimiller

    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    I find this offensive...so youre saying its child abuse to teach a kid about god or santa? Youve gone too far shiva.
     
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    The birth of Jesus...Only children believe in it.
     
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    Dawkins explains this adequately in "The Virus of Religion" - passed down from parents to children, without giving their kids a chance to decide for themselves.
     
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    Is god and Santa one of the same?
     
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    Why not just let kids make up their own mind when they're older? Surely they'd "find" god anyway.

    Why don't religious types put their money where their mouth is and let a natural process take place? What are they so scared of?
     
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    Santa is a representation of GOD that has morphed over the years in art historically. GODS have always had a beard and had magical powers. From the greek gods to the chinese masters that had supernatural abilities.

    it's interesting that the stupid atheists don't see this in santa claus. you are the one being fooled. Santa= A modern/human representation of God on Earth. Just like Jesus. you been POWNED!!!!
     
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    This must be one of the silliest posts I've read in these Religion forums.


    The father, the son, the holy ghost,,and wait for it, and Santa!!
     
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    St. Augustine writing in the 4th century said the Genesis account of creation was not meant to be taken literally. So the idea that Christians had to change what they believe because of modern science is simply not true.
     
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    That is obvious, however that is not what they are referring to. There believe that large dinosaurs co-existed with humans cuz' the Bible sayz so.

    Not just birds.
     
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    "The Bible does not specifically mention the word dinosaurs. It does talk about large animals and large creatures. We just assume that it is being refered to a dinosaur."

    http://answers.ask.com/Society/Religion_and_Spirituality/what_does_the_bible_say_about_dinosaurs

    Maybe you should read the Bible and stop getting your information from atheist web sites that have been proven wrong one time after another.
     
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    If this were true, how come catholics still believe in the original sin? Which relies wholey on Adam eating an apple in the garden of eden? Why hasn't the entire subsequent house of cards fallen?
     
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    Where?

    And no it isn't "just obvious" that birds are a type of dinosaur. Most people don't know that.
     
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    It is obvious to those who keep up with scientific advances.

    As for the "where", I suggest you start reading up on "creation science" so that you know what exactly the believe? They believe men were running around with brontosaurus. That is no chicken. Why would they cite birds anyway? Evolution never occurred.

    A'Beka is a good source to start, read their abysmal science text books. But here is a creationist website.
    http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/topic/dinosaurs
     
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    Yes, so I thought you probably needed informing.

    I asked where in the Bible it says it. All I got from that link was one dodgy verse in Job.
     
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    Certainly not I. I have known about the whole dinosaur to bird link for maybe fifteen years? It is common knowledge to anyone who follows the subject.

    Yup. That is what they use so justify the ridiculous claim that dinosaurs were roaming around at the same time as man. Welcome to the wild and whacky world of creationism.
     
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    Actually that was an insult. Be more offended!


    I agree creation science is barmy but don't drag the Bible down with it.
     
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    I have no doubts as to the level of your intellect.

    lol
    Creation science is based off of what?
     
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    That's unlikely.

    Ignorance.
     
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    Ignorance that is derived from using the Bible as a literal text.

    Which is easy to do. Considering the Bible says that the Bibles (note the fallacy) is the undeniable word of god. No where does it point out what can and cannot be taken literally or metaphorically.
     
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    Which quotes?

    What fallacy?

    No, exactly. We use history, reason etc.

    Well we're meant to anyway lol
     
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    Genesis is the example I am using in my mind at the moment.

    Circular reasoning/

    We are meant to, but the Bible does not tell the user to do such. Everything is the undeniable word of god, earth existing before light? Absolutely. Timmy playing softball with t-rex? Definitely.
     
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    If you're referring to the use of "days" then unfortunately that's a bit of a mistranslation. The Hebrew word "yom" has three meanings: 12 hour daylight period, 24 hours and an indefinite stretch of time. A careful reading of the text would show that the third would be appropriate.
     
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