The bullying of Joe Manchin

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  1. Ramjet

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    Joe Manchin said Democrats have tried to bully him into voting for the president's extravagant spending bill. Bullying has been the standard operating procedure of the left-- bully, intimidate, humiliate, harass and destroy. We see this in the cancel culture, where those who express views hostile to the left's political agenda are nullified as unworthy to live in polite society.

    They chased Sen. Sinema into a public bathroom and filmed the stall she was in. That tactic appears to have succeeded evidently. But they couldn't get to Manchin. West Virginia is the most conservative state in the country (per voting pattern) and Manchin has to answer to the voters there.

    AOC couldn't understand why Manchin has so much clout, being that her congressional district in the Bronx is bigger than the entire state of West Virginia, or so she said. In fact West Virginia is three times the size of any congressional district, but there is no educating AOC on account of her having gone to college. "The Squad" as they are called, AOC, Omar, Rashid, and Pressley are classic examples of the Dunning-Kruger effect, the tendency of the ignorant to think they're smart. They, not Manchin, know what's best for West Virginia. Bette Midler, another embarrassing know-nothing, called West Virginians illiterate and drugged out. West Virginia has a higher literacy rate than California and unlike California, it's not a magnet for drug addicts, vagabonds and roving bands of violent, serial shoplifters.

    One gets the sense the tide has turned against the socialists who thought they had some kind of mandate to undo the Constitution and the economic system. But Biden wasn't elected because he was a radical who would usher in a newer, more perfect form of Stalinism. Biden was elected because too many people were tired of all the drama.

    It's time, dear socialist Democrats, to exit stage left.
     
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    I think bullying is a perfectly acceptable tactic when it comes to a President fulfilling the agenda he campaigned on.

    If you have ever read the history behind the approval by Congress of the 13th A, that's how Lincoln got it done. It's also how Johnson got the Civil Rights Act through.

    I EXPECT democrats to bully Sinema and Manchin. It's what they were elected to do! And I couldn't care less if this hurts their feelings.

    Having said that, I must confess that I kind of agree with Manchin's objections to child stimulus. I have seen it being abused. And besides, the proper time for stimulus is during a recession. Right now the economy is solid. However, the rest of the bill HAS to pass. And I couldn't care less who they have to bully to get it through. And the same goes for voting rights, fixing healthcare, fixing civil rights... and the rest of the Biden agenda.
     
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    Nice to know you think it’s ok to bully and harass people
    That’s a good liberal!
     
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    Just out of curiosity, how much do you think the bullying of Manchin and Sinema has achieved?
     
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    I believe it's a part of the leftist creed!
     
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    Does personal satisfaction count?
     
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    The ONLY thing it should achieve is get them to support the President's agenda. If it doesn't achieve that, they weren't bullied enough.
     
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    LOL. Can you actually look at me with a straight face and say that if they had been bullied more, they would have voted for BBB? How would you have done that?
     
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    Dude has a short memory - remember what happened to John McCain when he went against Trump's agenda? Or when the Republicans voted to impeach
    Trump? Both sides used "bullying" and threats - so please just stop.
     
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    You would need to ask Lincoln or LBJ how THEY did it. Or maybe even Obama how HE did it to pass Obamacare. I'm pretty sure he probably did a lot of bullying to get that through.
     
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    I think all this pilling on, the abuse especially by progressives are giving Manchin is that if one has a D behind his name, you’re expected to march lockstep with the Democratic Party like a mindless robot. No with free will or a free mind or different thought is welcomed in the Democratic Party. Just strict obedience. This from the same group that talks about talk about Trump and his followers. If I were Manchin, I’d have left the Democratic Party long ago. He might do exactly that and I wouldn’t blame him one bit. He sure isn’t welcomed as a Democrat. That party doesn’t want him.


    Rumors swirl that Manchin could defect from the Democratic Party after he sank Biden's Build Back Better spending plan


    https://news.yahoo.com/rumors-swirl-manchin-could-defect-130857682.html
     
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    I would not be overstating an obvious fact…. The issues brought before the House are not addressed for the good of America … the House Democrats answer to Pelosi and if they step out of the queen’s boundaries… they are dealt with.. I find that kind of “ruler” mentality not the way a government and decisions made for Americans should ever be done…
     
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    No surprise. Turn off your mind, follow blindly, tow the line, and do whatever is necessary to be useful. Oh, and ignore results!
     
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    The coal miners and their union and his constituents are putting the pressure on him now so the Dems are the least of his worries. BBB has provisions specifically for WV coal miners and they’ve benefitted from the child tax credit and didn’t appreciate his “they spend it on drugs” comment.

    It’s WTF Joe. He’ll come around eventually.
     
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    yep, do not support it

    not as bad as the right treated McCain, but still no justification for personal attacks on the man
     
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    For a side that likes to deal in facts, you seem to have no idea of how you would accomplish your goals. You can't even detail how you should have bullied both Manchin and Sinema more in order to get them on board and, amazingly, you can't even see the fact that the bullying you have already done has worked out backwards. This is why you guys took a drubbing in recent elections and even your own side is terrified of the midterms. They have now decided to play defense only, trying to hold on to as many seats as they can in order to decrease the size of their upcoming drubbing. Maybe if you had listened to Manchin instead of bullying him, you could have passed something.
     
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    If by bullying you mean endlessly compromising with him, cutting the size of the BBB bill in half, and removing parts he objects to, while pointing out his overt conflict of interest by virtue of his financial stake in a coal brokerage firm from which he drew a roughly $500K salary........then I guess they are bullying him.
     
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    I can think of very few things as juvenile as claiming that they know how to do a President's job.

    Let me bring you back to reality: you don't!
     
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    Manchin is profiting handsomely from his opposition to Build BackBetter as he has received numerous corporate campaign contributions. He is also drawing the ire of many of his own impoverished states voters who will benefit from Bidens plan.
     
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    Great post, Ramjet.

    I have the pleasure of knowing firsthand that West Virginia is one of the most beautiful states in America and most of its people are salt of the earth.

    Obviously, ignorant "progressive" bigots like AOC and Midler have a lot to learn about both, and they're about to learn it the hard way.
     
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    Remarkable coming from the Daily Beast:
     
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    There are things I could have done better. The Afghanistan withdraw, for example. I suspect there are things that just about everyone could have done better.
     
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    Yeah. If I were Trump I wouldn't have signed an unconditional surrender. But doing the job of President better than Trump is such a low low bar....
     
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    Trump had nothing to do with Biden's screw-up on Afghanistan.
     
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    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the party of compassion.
     
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