The chaos is over, let the chaos begin.

"Look ma, I gots me the gavel."



Maybe it's the angle of the photo, but it sorta looks like he's already hitting himself in the head with it. An act he will no doubt want to perform again and again in the future. And if he doesn't, I'm sure members of the Crazy will oblige.

Kevin is speaker in name only after giving away the store to the far right faction that now has more control over the goings on than he does. Notably, the nutters have been promised three seats on the Rules Committee. It controls what legislation reaches the floor and in what form. Also, spending bills would have to be considered under so-called open rules, allowing any member to put to a vote an unlimited number of changes that could gut the legislation altogether. Finally, in the ultimate act of self sabotage, he allowed for the ability of a single member of the House to call for a resolution to vote for a new Speaker.

So congrats Mr. McCarthy. You've lost all self respect, the respect of your colleagues, and the respect of America, all to "preside" over a body you have no chance of controlling. The anti-government trolls are in charge, determined to prove that government is something to be scorned. They're off to a flying start.

 

Considering how much of himself Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy had to sell to win the position, I'm surprised there's enough of him left to lift the gavel.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

So true. It was an act of self immolation that was cringe worthy. Especially when he agreed to allow any member of the Freedom Caucus to have relations with his wife.

 

I wonder if there is some way for Democrats to use this to their advantage. I mean, the MAGA extremist caucaus will certainly block EVERYTHING. Including keeping the government open. I see no way McCarthy could stay in power for long unless he negotiates with Democrats.

Most likely the next 2 years will be a constant repeat of the debacle we saw all this week. But I see a small opening for a return to bi-partisan negotiations.

 

Now that we're done laughing out loud at the sight of the children playing in the sandbox comes the frightening realization the ones eating the sand are in charge.

 

If he negotiates with the dems, Goetz et al will vote to have him removed. Going to be an ugly 2 years and could be a disaster if/when the debt ceiling is not raised

 

The recent events in the House of Representatives should not be derided, but rather celebrated as demonstrating the vibrancy of democracy.

“We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."

[Remarks on the 20th Anniversary of the Voice of America; Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, February 26, 1962]”
― John F. Kennedy

 

I've seen that ridiculous analogy to the frightening takeover of the House by a small faction of extremists before. I'm surprised you fell for it. But then...........the bloggers, so..................

 

Neither those you call "extremists" nor "the Squad" at the opposite end are in a position for a takeover. But the existence of both factions is a sign of health.
“Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it.”
― Thomas Paine

 

JFK was a good speech maker. Many of his lines I can still remember. I'm curious though (and perhaps I just need educated - which I'm open to). What I saw this past week was not debate on the floor. Other than the nominating "speeches" no actual debate took place. Many of the principle points raised were not disagreed with. What we saw on the floor was just the process of voting. The real debates took place behind closed doors.

 

The difference between the Squad and the freedom caucus MAGA extremists is that the Squad is willing to work on governance, the MAGA extremists have come to DC to obstruct and destroy. I wouldn't be surprised if they block the extension of the debt ceiling coming up later this year, even at the risk of default of the US government.

 

JFK's "open market" was demonstrated in full force, both on camera and off.

 

I know it's a long shot, but Democrats COULD vote to keep him. IF he agrees to "concessions". Like not blowing up the country...

To be honest, I think the most likely scenario is that McCarthy won't keep his word. Lying comes easy these days to Republicans in Congress. To a point that nobody even expects them to not lie. Not even themselves.

 

Really?
The Squad hit on a special rule shakes the Democratic ...
https://thehill.com › opinion › congress-blog › 367264...

Oct 3, 2022 — Four Squad members voted against the rule: Ocasio-Cortez, Tlaib, Bush, and Bowman. Only 375 members were still around to vote in person ...


AOC, The Squad defend infrastructure "no" vote - Axios
https://www.axios.com › Politics & Policy

Nov 8, 2021 — Reps. Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman joined the Squad in voting against the bill.

 

What your false equivalence fails to account for is that while the Squad may hold to views that are out of the mainstream, they do not lend support to an insurrectionist not do they deny the reality of his electoral defeat. The existence of the beliefs of the Freedom Caucus is a sign of disease, not health.

 

We celebrate the fact that we get to live in a Democracy. Because it's the best form of government. Despite the fact that it has flaws. Extremists can try to take advantage of the flaws to try to destroy it. Like they did in the insurrection. Or like they did this week. We can endure the flaws, but it would be stupid to celebrate them.

 

You should research Democrats' election denial after 2000 and 2004. No harm, no foul.
And what you call an "insurrection" was merely punks on parade.

“Hegel remarks somewhere that all great, world-historical facts and personages occur, as it were, twice. He has forgotten to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce.”

― Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte

 

Ok, but it seemed to me that the only "open market" on the House floor was over who to trust to deliver the "goods", not over the "goods" themselves. That issue was most likely debated behind closed doors when the majority of debaters selected McCarthy to deliver the "goods".

 

The virtues of democracy have been on display. The "insurrection" was a farce.
“Hegel remarks somewhere that all great, world-historical facts and personages occur, as it were, twice. He has forgotten to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce.”

― Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte

 

But we need to be afraid when a substantial portion of the American people start to believe in, not unpleasant facts, but demonstrable lies.

 

I think you are mistaken, but we shall see.

 

No, we do not.

 

It's moments like these when I realize how blinded you are by partisanship. Comparing outrage over the SC's grotesque ruling in Bush v Gore with the ongoing denial of objective reality by Trump and his minions is farcical.

 

Democrats can go on feeling smug and happy, because functionally, they keep their chokehold on everything of importance to actual government. Whatever this collection of RINO's and Conservatives, known loosely as "Republicans", try to do in the House, they'll be stymied by the Senate and, of course, Biden. And, when as a result of this 'trench warfare' everything starts coming apart at the seams and going to hell, the hyperliberal Democrat wokesters and their sycophants in the mainstream "news" media will conveniently blame everything on "Republicans".

So, if you thought the last two years were gut-wrenching misery and irresponsible idiocy, just wait --

 

You know what is partisan?
Election denial for me but not for thee
It’s hillarious to see YOU lecture folks on hyper partisanship
Take a good look in the mirror