The CIA Just Invested In Woolly Mammoth Resurrection Technology

The change we know about, the change verified by science, the change that occurred LONG AFTER these species were no more than fossils, is identified as being caused by the massive change in the human population and the advent of the industrial age.

Ignoring that change while postulating ancient animals is not a rational conclusion if examining climate change.

The people working on bringing these two species back to life don't seem to me to be working on the full biological requirements for meeting real climate change objectives.

 

Large herbivores are all fossils? Permafrost didn’t disappear and form and disappear again over the span of the last ice age and the little ice age? One period with mammoths and one without? Nobody is saying climate change is driven by mammoths. I’m saying they are useful as large herbivores to sequester carbon, keep soil temps low, etc. no matter if it’s 100,000 BC or 2022 AD.

It’s not irrational to use nature’s own tools to heal ecosystems. LOL

Perhaps the people trying to bring back the mammoth are not interested in doing anything constructive with their research. Here is my comment.

You are probably right. They are probably like most others who have no interest in using nature to heal the planet. It’s more fun to complain about perceived problems than to actually use science and nature to make a difference. Even when solutions are staring us in the face and shown through experimentation to actually work.

Thanks for offering more evidence nobody is serious about solutions. It’s good information for people to see.

 

Yes, the species being mentioned are all extinct.

The connection unproven is this idea that the needed herbivores could be found in species that are extinct.

Your own cites on this discuss the idea of more reindeer, horses, bison, etc. Roughly speaking, we know their requirements and have such species available. There are even groups working on this.

 

Not all the species I’ve mentioned.

There is nothing that needs proven. We (I did and now you do because I guided you to the information) know large herbivores can preserve and protect permafrost. Mammoths are large herbivores “native” to the ecosystem you are upset is changing. They would have value in preserving permafrost and tundra ecosystems.

No, they are not indispensable in a scenario restoring large herbivores, but certainly valuable. I stated perhaps the scientists working on bringing mammoths back saw value in using them as nature intended. You don’t think they have any interest. You could be right. But until yesterday you thought the whole notion of large herbivores preserving permafrost was unserious hocus pocus.

A serious question. If extinct species don’t have value, why are climate alarmists always spun up about extinction of species? Are currently extinct species of no value but currently existing species are valuable? So 99.9% of species that have existed have no value but the 0.1% that exist now are crucial to the survival of the planet?

Yes there are groups working on it. That’s why I brought it up to begin with. Because it’s not pie in the sky unicorn theory. It’s reality. Seriously.

My one source also discussed what mammoths bring to the table as far as vegetation management and carbon sequestration in areas that move in and out of permafrost status. I can improve (and have) native grass prevalence in pastures using beef cattle. But it can never match what could be done with free range Buffalo and fire. In the same way, there is no doubt reindeer and musk ox can help and have value in the permafrost ecosystem. But neither can perform the specific function of a mammoth.

You wondered why we would “resurrect” the mammoth in an era when their habitat is disappearing. I’m just saying they could actually help preserve that ecosystem if that’s what we wanted to do. As I’ve said, I doubt many are actually interested in doing so. On that we agree.

 

They made a bunch of movies about Jurassic resurrections. Perhaps they were prescient?

 

The CIA Just Invested In Woolly Mammoth Resurrection Technology

And people fail to realize what a monstrosity federal government has become.