The Cops now steal more in America that all burglaries

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-...-forfeitures-exceed-value-all-burglaries-2014

The Cops in America are now by dollar value the biggest criminals in America.
Cops via criminal asset forfeitures steal more from American citizens than all the criminal burglaries combined.

I’ve recently been reading about an even more worrying example of low-end statecraft: Stop-and-seize. This term refers to a practice, increasingly common since the turn of the century, of police confiscating people’s property without making an arrest or obtaining a warrant. That may not sound legal, but it is! The police simply pull you over and take your money.



A Washington Post investigative report from a year ago explains:

"[A]n aggressive brand of policing [is spreading] that has spurred the seizure of hundreds of millions of dollars in cash from motorists and others not charged with crimes...Thousands of people have been forced to fight legal battles that can last more than a year to get their money back.

Behind the rise in seizures is a little-known cottage industry of private police-training firms…

A thriving subculture of road officers…now competes to see who can seize the most cash and contraband, describing their exploits in the network’s chat rooms and sharing “trophy shots” of money and drugs. Some police advocate highway interdiction as a way of raising revenue for cash-strapped municipalities.


With government unable to pay police as much as they need or would like, police are confiscating their revenue directly from the populace.

It is now official, America is a third world craphole where the Cops are the biggest criminals the public has to fear.

 

How the heck does this type of thing get by the 'due process' and/or 'innocent until proven guilty' protections?

 

Asset forfeiture has begun to affect us common folk. I've seen reports of small business owners and even working stiffs being caught up by it.

It has gotten so bad in some states that I believe some state legislatures have begun to make some changes.

I can understand forfeiture in the case of fraud, money laundering, organized crime, etc. But when us common folk begin to worry about it, it probably has gone too far.

 

Because criminals do not follow the law.

 

It is why public policy must constitute public Use and trigger eminent domain; should there be any conflict of laws.

 

Okay, that sucks. Now, stop your whining and do something about it.

Our lawful and peaceful revolution​

 

Baloney.
The answer is because corrupt judges give the cops the right to do these criminals acts despite people's right of protection under the Constitution. These are government crimes. NRA, right wingers, Tea Party, and others who claim to be constitutionalists should be enraged and take corrective action to stop this nonsense.

 

Yes, that is true Mr. Truth, but there is no clearly defined "corrective action".

The only one clearly defined, is not accepted because the Americans cannot figure out that free speech has an ULTIMATE purpose, and agreement upon that is what fuels our lawful and peaceful revolution.

Let me put it this way.

What if there was a specific reason Americans cannot enforce their constitution and that reason can be traced back to deficiency in the 1st Amendment? Wouldn't that be absolutely huge and a very good reason to amend?

To make a simple analogy; Americans know that the 2nd AMD has an ultimate purpose, but they're not currently able to accept the 1st AMD has the same purpose. In fact they are inclined to say it has no purpose, it just IS.

Gee, why is it the 1st then. Go figure.

 

Shocking! Stop-and-seize should be eliminated.

 

Federal funding of the drug war (equipment, training and manpower) has declined. As a result, agencies are relying more heavily on this.

 

I don't mind reading my State Constitution and supreme law of the land of our State; merely to give gun lovers a difficult time for being so lazy.

 

Agreed, me too.

What gets me is that that they know the ultimate purpose of a gun, not that the 2nd amendment defines it, but they cannot imagine that freedom of speech of the 1st amendment has an ultimate purpose. All the while whining about government restricting their right to bear arms, acting like having arms is effective at doing something about it. Ignoring that unity is required to resist and control government. NONSENSICAL!

 

Gun lovers merely confuse the concept of natural rights with the security needs of a free State.

 

Yes!

Another thing. I point out that unity and Article V can protect 2nd amendment rights effectively. Then, if Article V is hijacked or derailed, the people still have their fund AND unity, which is a hell of a lot more effective for securing the needs of a free state than a few lonely, cold dead hands being relieved of their arms.

Second amendment rights advocates are more icon oriented than they know. They need an icon thinking for them and speaking for them to find unity. If that was not true, there would be many advocates for the lawful and peaceful revolution that is our first right.

 

Another result of the war on drugs

 

The problem is, it starts at the top.

Remember a few years ago when Gibson and Martin guitar companies were receiving wood from Madagascar and India, that didn't arrive through the proper channels.... and the Obama administration only raided Gibson, with drawn weapons, and confiscated the wood and fined them $300k. Defending Madagascar law (not ours).

Martin (no raid), was an Obama supporter... Gibson wasn't.

They lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in expensive wood, despite Gibson showing the feds an official, sworn statement from the Madagascar government saying no law was broken.

So maybe if the federal government was less corrupt.... the local government would be less corrupt.


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On my first visit to the US in 1984 a friend (former Deputy Sheriff in Imperial Co. Ca. and Jefferson Co. Or.) took me for a drive around his town (Muscatine, Iowa.). He showed me a little municipality out on the highway which he called a speed trap. He told me the town makes money from fines on speeding drivers. This latest scam is simply an extension.

 

Confusion among the Right between the common Defense and the common Offense?

 

We already pay taxes to fund Government; funding government through enforcement measures is a form of double-taxation.

 

I am. Corruption exists because it is hidden in the dark. It cannot survive the light of day. I educate people.

 

It is not just judges, the entire criminal justice system is corrupt to the bone. But you cannot blame the criminals in government for being criminals, it is their nature, it is what they do. The true blame belongs squarely on the shoulders of the American people. The people as citizens have a duty to be vigilant and to hold the feet of government to the fire. But the people are lazy and stupid and do not want to do their duty as citizens, and so the government runs amok.
I will tell you things that make you angry with me, because I will tell you the truth, and the truth is not what you or anyone else wants to hear.

 

Probably a good idea not to carry much cash. Credit/debit cards are probably the way to go. This way you avoid having money confiscated and paying for a long legal battle to recover what was taken.

 

Not quite. A speed trap is unethical, but technically, they do catch you breaking a law.

Asset forfeiture is clearly against the 5th Amendment of the Constitution in which reads "No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"; Asset forfeiture is clearly depriving a person of their property without due process. It is actually an admission by government that the Constitution itself is no longer in effect.

 

You obviously missed my posts defending the Black Panthers when they openly carried rifles and dared the cops to harass them. This is how people should go about every day. Once that happens the government will back off.

Click on search and you will find my earlier posts in the subject.

 

So you are just willing to give up your 5th amendment rights without a fight? This is the entire problem in America today.... we have become a nation of cowards. There was a time when people were willing to stand up for their freedoms and even to die for them. Today, they will not even send an email of outrage to their elected officials.... you see, that is all it would really take, a couple of million pissed off Americans emailing their elected officials and it would scare the crap out of them and this illegal practice would cease nationwide.
But as a people we are too stupid and cowardly to get off our fat asses and even do that.
We deserve to lose all our freedoms.