The Covid Shot-Can You Handle The Truth?

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  1. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    China doesn't need global support for vaccines.
     
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    OK. Why would any credible and/or non-authoritarian country do such a thing? We know why China, for example, underreported Covid cases. Sidenote: We also know why the US, for example, overreported Covid cases.
     
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    Yep, very good point.
     
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    There is no evidence for YOUR claim. The hospitalization ratio started out in the 90% range right after vaccinations kicked in in the spring of 2021. Then that ratio has slowly evolved to where states like Massachusetts are now about 36% vaccinated in hospitals. Yes, you can find a hospital here and there in Wyoming or somewhere there are very low vaccination rates that claim 90% of hospitalizations are unvaccinated, but there simply isn’t ANY evidence it’s 95% nationally. In fact, all evidence, even from the CDC conflicts with that unsubstantiated claim. I love when people keep posting unsubstantiated opinion like you do here and then reject actual empirical evidence. As I say, it proves my point perfectly. You don’t care about science or data or evidence. You prefer completely unsubstantiated opinions. You WANT misinformation.

    I don’t “think” I know stuff. I post accurate information based on empirical evidence. In contrast you post unsubstantiated opinions I can present evidence are incorrect. Your whining doesn’t change that.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok, then show the empirical evidence to prove that you know what I want.
     
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    Done. You reject quantitative empirical evidence in favor of unsubstantiated opinion that conflicts with known evidence. This is easily observed behavior you engage in. You can choose evidence or unsubstantiated opinion. You choose the latter. It’s what you want.

    If someone is FORCING you to choose unsubstantiated opinions, blink twice.
     
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    And why is that?
     
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    Why not?
     
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    Because they have their own
     
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    Follow the big money to big pharma...to hospitals.

    To obtain authoritarian power over the American people.
     
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    Considering that they have today fully locked down a large city because of three asymptomatic carriers their reported figures are probably more accurate than most
     
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    China has a population of 1.4 billion people and reporting they have 3291 active cases.
    The US has a population of 333 million and reporting we have 13 million active cases.

    Thanks for confirming the US is falsifying their numbers.
     
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    China has a low number because they fully lock down large cities when only 3 asymptomatic cases are discovered.

    I see you still believe that "active cases" is a tracked category even after being shown the definition of "active cases". Why don't you look at Florida and California graphs of "active cases" and post what is a blatantly obvious observation?
     
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    So is it your claim that the US is over reporting COVID data?
     
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    Its not my claim. Its posted data reported by the US.
    30 million active infections globally and the US reports almost half are in the US?
    330 million people have half the active infections of over 7.7 billion?
    Which is a product of over reporting for over a year.
     
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    Well it's still your claim.
     
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    How is it my claim when I show you where the US is reporting their numbers?
     
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    Still waiting for you to explain away the "active case" graphs of California and Florida since you think that active cases are accurate even after being shown the definition given by worldometer
     
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    I posted the opposite
    I know the numbers are fake.
     
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    You are not getting it. The numbers are not fake; they are obtained by algorithms automatically grabbing data from spreadsheets but that data is not updated or does not exist or has been moved to another cell on the spreadsheet and in the case of some regions, such as California, obsolete. It's a bug in the software that worldometer use. We can see this on the graph of California where hardly anyone is shown as recovered and the graph of active cases continues to rise up

    Think about what "active case" actually means or requires. It requires someone to continually test every positive case until they test negative. This is not carried out anywhere other than on those in hospital who have either died or sent home in which case they will be removed from the active case number.
     
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    I mean it's your claim that there is a conspiracy at the government level whereby COVID data is being falsified.
     
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    Well, you have two options.
    You can either believe that 4% of the population has almost half the active global infections as reported out of 7.7 billion people.
    Or you don't buy into it.
    Pretty simple.
     
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    So then it's a conspiracy in which both Republicans and Democrats are involved in?
     
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    Now you think if its a conspiracy, both parties would be involved together?
    Wow
     

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