The diff btwn Rus in Ukr and US in Syria? The UN cant explain... can you?

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A UN spokesperson was asked 'Is the uninvited US military presence in Syria illegal?' and 'How is it different than Russia in Ukraine?'

    Obviously there is a difference in scale... just as there's a difference in scale between, say, stabbing someone with a knife and cutting them in half with a chainsaw. But they're both still wrong and illegal.

    The UN spokesperson wasn't able to answer the question, and basically just said 'we're moving on.'

    Can you explain the difference, from the standpoint of international law?

    Cuz it seems to me the UN is just biased and lets the US get away with whatever we want.

    The exchange is 9:12-12:40 here:

     
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    international law is on the side of the USA
    Putin's rights to Ukraine, I cannot refute from the point of view of the right, objectively
     
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    you can't prove anything, you have to bribe the judges
     
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    What exactly are you trying to say here?
     
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    From the US's point of view, it's legal under the 2001 AUMF. From the UN's point of view, it may be legal under UN resolution 1373 which seemed to rubber stamp the US's actions against terrorism.
     
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    I don't believe in justice
     
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    there are some contradictions in the law
     
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    The United States didn't hold shame referendums in an attempt to steal Syrian land and declare it a 51 state
     
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    Please clarify. Do you not believe that there is no justice in the world or do just disagree that there is a need for justice?
     
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    this question is similar to
    Don't you like that justice for Americans is justice for all?
     
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    As an American of course I want America to strive for justice for all.
     
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    it is neo-imperialism, not justice
     
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    That is what Russia says while Russia practices imperialism. So you agree with Putin?
     
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    i.e. you are a CIA troll
     
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    I am for the independence of Berlin and Kyiv
    Americans do not influence them
     
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    Ha ha I have been called worse things. You need to get more sophisticated in your accusations.
     
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    I’d forgotten about us still having troops in Syria. Scale is huge. In Syria we’re basically keeping an eye on what’s left of ISIS there, perhaps some pin pricks against them. The huge difference is we’re not trying to take over Syria by military conquest as Russia is trying to do in the Ukraine. International law, I know nothing about that as it doesn’t mean anything. When it suits them, countries will always do what is in their best interest regardless of international law. What’s the UN going to do, send in a UN Marshal to the Kremlin to arrest Putin? Good luck with that.
     
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    I talked to the Americans
    English language and culture are dangerous
     
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    I disagree with you and this conversation is getting too far off topic.
     

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