The effects of entropy on government.

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  1. Parabola

    Parabola New Member

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    I'm sure you are familiar with the concept of entropy, in basic terms: "all things get more complex over time"
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    While this term is more often used in physics, I believe it can also be easily applied to political systems. And as in chemistry or physics, entropy has negative effects on objects and people within the system at one point or another. Entropy is responsible for the death of cells, through buildup of harmful chemicals. In my view, it is also responsible for the death of governments.
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    Once a governmental system becomes so complex it can't be easily understood, it consequently becomes too complex to manipulate with predictable results. At that point neither politicians nor the citizenry have the capabilities to support the system. The system becomes un-salvageable.
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    It is then my humble belief, that ideologies: "what to do" matter far less than processes: "How to do", If politicians continue to add onto the system rather than simplify it, if both the right and the left simply layer over past solutions with their own, then the eventual collapse of our system becomes inevitable.
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    Simplification of the system then, elegant simple solutions, must become our priority.
     
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    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Granny says drop one o' her cups an' ya gonna be payin' for it outta yer allowance...
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    So make smaller states.
     
  4. ballantine

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    Point of order: entropy is the opposite of complexity.

    Complexity requires structure, which is the opposite of entropy.

    Entropy basically means "randomness", which equates with a condition of minimal energy in the system as a whole.

    So, for instance, if you wanted to promote the concept of "entropy in politics" you could be looking at the randomness of the bills coming out of the House, or the lack of energy in our Senate, but generally speaking entropy is the opposite of what you're saying (ie you just chose the wrong word, is all). Things get less complex when entropy is involved, because complexity means structure - and under the influence of entropy structure (and therefore energy) dissipates.

    Just an FYI - and that being said, I do see your point, and carry on!
     
  5. Taxcutter

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    "Simplification of the system then, elegant simple solutions, must become our priority."

    Taxcutter says:
    The first step toward simplification is to stop trying to have government do more than its valid functions.
    National defense is a valid function of government.
    Operating pension and health insurance funds is not valid function of government.
     
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