The enemy within.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you ever considered backing up what you assert? This is why the Ukrainian people revolted against Putin's puppet government.

    Ukraine protests after Yanukovych EU deal rejection
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25162563

    Perhaps you need to listen to less Russian propaganda.
     
  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You've yet to demonstrate you know anything at all about the matter.
     
  3. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    I want you to go over exactly what I posted and tell me what exactly you regard as factually incorrect and why you think it's Russian propaganda.
     
  4. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    I think I've demonstrated fairy well that you and every other poster who asserts that GOP lawmakers are being guided by Russian propaganda have no factual basis to do so.
     
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    Classic you don't have an answer for 'the enemy within.'
     
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    https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/r...alist-whisperer-echoes-kremlins-naz-rcna21166

    The Russian claim about Nazis came right out of Putin’s mouth.


    It’s obvious to Russian trolls, and the people who eat troll outputit up because it gives them an excuse for supporting Putin’s agenda.

    Of course, the talk radio/Fox crowd has been fed a steady diet of Kremlin propoganda for a decade.




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    It is Russian propoganda.

    There is no evidence whatsoever that the United States engineered a coup in Ukraine.

    But when Moscow’s pet, Viktor Yanokovich went back on his promise to try and join the E.U., and went for the Russians instead, the public decided that it had had enough of him, and his flagrant graft.

    The Americans did support the new government, as did most of the West.

    As far as I know, Yanokovich is living in Moscow.
     
  8. Lil Mike

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    Just to be clear, your claim is that there were/are Ukrainian Nazi's is just Putin propaganda?

    As I recall that was fairly well covered by our own media until the war.
     
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    The abhorrent behavior I see, and the enemy within that concerns me are the politicized prosecutions by corrupt Democrat judges, crooked Democrat prosecutors and biased courts, that seek to lock up their Republican opponent, strip him of his assets, deliberately time trials to keep him off the campaign trail in a deliberate attack on our election system.

    I'm also concerned about the pro-Hamas terrorist supporters and the anti-Semitism we are seeing. Deliberately shutting down bridges and roads? What if they block ambulances, fire trucks, and police response and people die or property is destroyed? I want to see those involved and those that fund and arrange these blockades held to account for the harm that they do.

    Clearly Bribed Joe's Feds aren't going to do anything, these blockaders are leftwing shock troops. Ultimately I think the solutions will come from the States. FL drags their asses out of the streets and locks them up.

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    'Governor Kemp's Instructions on Pro-Hamas Protesters in GA: "Lock Their A** Up"'

    Hear! Hear!
     
  10. Reasonablerob

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    Perhaps it's because the left paved the way and this is the only way to respond to it in kind? That you seek to vilify and blame the other side exclusively demonstrates exactly how we got here, that you think of your political opponents are "The Enemy Within" says it all.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why don't you begin with substantiating this statement. "“government only exists because the Obama State Department helped to overthrow the previous regime.” A statement that implies if it were not for US "help," something you have yet to define, the Ukrainian people would not have been successful in throwing Yanukovych out of office.
     
  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do I understand you to say the "left" is responsible for Putin's efforts in bringing down western democracies by spreading disinformation? Please explain yourself.
    As for my reference to the enemy within, it was in regards to two House Repub chairmen publicly stating members of their caucus have spouted Russian propaganda, not my philosophical differences with Repubs on routine policy matters.
     
  13. Lil Mike

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    I didn't say that, I was QUOTING, hence the quotation marks. This is what I said:

    I asked someone to show me the link. Did Greene hold meetings with Russians who gave her talking points? Is she quoting RT?

    It's rather ironic that you guys were on the Russian's side for almost the entirety of the cold war. John Kerry would run down to Nicaragua and have sit downs with Ortega and run back to the US and spew Ortega's talking points to the media.

    Now you are accusing us of doing what you guys were doing! Hilarious!
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In what way did we "clearly helped with the coup?" To what extent? Did the coup come about because of US "help" or because of Yanukovych's failure to do what the people wanted, become closer to Europe? A policy shift he resisted at Putin's direction.

    Ukraine set to sign EU pact that sparked revolution
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/26/ukraine-european-union-trade-pact

    The signing comes four months after Viktor Yanukovych was ousted by a popular revolt that started when he performed a U-turn over signing the agreement last November, citing the need for further negotiations with Russia.

    Russia has expended huge energy and pressure in its attempts to coerce Ukraine into joining its rival Eurasian Union, but is now resigned to losing its western neighbour to Europe, even if unrest in the east continues to give Moscow a voice in Ukrainian affairs.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your argument is with House Intel Committee chairman Mike Turner (R) and House Foreign Affairs Committee chairman Mike McCaul (R), who disagree with you. Given a choice in recognizing who is in a better position to know I'm going with the guys who are in a better position to know.
     
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    Democrats want to dismantle advanced education and install woke propaganda instead.
     
  17. Lee Atwater

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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Once again, thanks for your invaluable insight.
     
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    So, just a question. When mr Biden stumbles through a message delivered to him by the Chinese, does it worry/concern you that your democratic party president is entirely in the pocket of Beijing? Or, worse, does it matter to you that mr Biden was bribed by folks from Russia, Ukraine, and China?

    I mean, you write these obfuscational threads in an attempt to do what? Distract attention away from your dear leader? You're writing nonsense here. You start with an assertion that somehow normalized conservative thought is simply packaged propaganda from Russia, and yet you failed in any way to actually produce an example of it. If, as you point out, it was a republican who complained about a conservative outlet, it sure seems like a) you haven't read your own sources sufficiently enough to understand the content of it; and b) you failed to advance evidence of your assertion in your rush to create yet another time wasting effort to do what? Convince yourself that your active support of a Russian/Ukrainian/Chinese bribed president needs your help on a forum like this that attempts to hide these set of facts from the US public?

    Be honest, what you're really arguing about here is that folks aren't mouthing the catechism you so religiously devoutly spew on these forums. And given that you cannot actually support these flights of fantasy, you've taken to actively advancing threads, like this, that you wish will make folks not actually look at the criminal you so ardently worship.
     
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    The question now is why do you align yourself with those who want to destroy the nation?
     
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    Then you should be ble to back up your claim.
     
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    How on earth could you conclude THAT?
     
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    That's not even the issue. It's not about whether we helped with the coup or not, it's does Greene getting talking points from Russia? You've done nothing to prove that. In fact you seem to go deeper and deeper off track to investigate the history of this coup.
     
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    I agree with me over those guys.
     
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