The English baby that the British health plan want to kill should tell everyone a lot

That of any creature: to live so much as that is possible without undue hardship (translated to extreme suffering). To not be left out to die unless all reasonable measures have been taken aid it. Here you have one set of doctors and a hospital arguing the kid needs to be left to die there over a course of weeks or months, you have another doctor arguing he can quite possibly do something to aid the child in a manner which would be significant if perhaps slight to outside observers and the parents begging to be allowed to try before being forced to allow their son to slowly die on hospice care. I don't think someone unfamiliar with the child is most fit to make that decision. And I find the idea of parents having to beg to be allowed to uphold their duty to preserve and protect the life they created to be deeply abhorrent.

 

He needs to be familiar with the childs medical condition, why specifically does he need to know the child, what can a connection with the child tell him?

 

You're claiming to be a terminal patient, are you not? Are you simply the information on your medical chart?

 

Don't be churlish.

I'm made clear that I recognize this is a a moral dilemma in which medical expertise and humanitarian concerns are legitimate, interdependent factors, and one in which those without an intimate grasp of the prognosis, probabilities of both positive and adverse consequences, are apt to impose their biases.

I recognize it would be arrogant of me to dictate to those actually confronting the tragedy, and refrain from doing so.

If that upsets you, that's unfortunate.

 

No you tell me what this connection with a blind, mute, brain damaged child can tell him?

 

O don't be saucy now, you're the one announcing you've smoked me out like I'm a wild animal.

First you made clear it should be left to those with ethical qualifications. When i informed you I had such a credential, then you wanted to plead your nobility. I've made clear that it's more than possible to have an opinion on something in a discussion forum without actually impacting those involved at all. Chill out man.

 

So you're not simply your medical chart, but he is?
You already have your answer, he is not solely his chart in the same fashion that you are not.

 

With your law and philosophy training surely you can produce the evidence of this "connection"?

 

Remember this "connection" is a "considerable thing" but you cannot tell us what it is? Even with all your training?

 

Surely you understand that some things are simply implied or presumed, first, and second you already admitted it's existence?
Charlie is a human being, not a chattel as you have so strenuously protested. You dispose of chattels without knowing them, you do not do so to human beings. Would you have him disposed of like a chattel, I had thought you went the other way? Or was that only when the parents would be making a decision? When the state is making it, is he not a chattel though treated as one?

Question for you: if you think the brain damaged child has no quality of life, as you seem to imply, (I say seem because that is what I'm receiving. If not do correct me and explicate) would it be acceptable to simply pith him through the brain stem killing him instantly or to give him a fatal overdose of morphine?

 

How do you describe the color blue?

 

And why not.

 

6500K Now can you give evidence of what this connection is, this "considerable connection"

 

Because it is not a trial, the outcome is decided, " the best interest of the child".

 

Classic example why gov politicians should not be involved in health care.

 

6500k of What? And how does that translate to someone without the scale you reference?

 

I am simply asking what the connection is.

 

6500k of What? And how does that translate to someone without the scale you reference?

Can you give evidence of why you are more than the facts on your medical chart as you answered previously?

 

And I'm telling you, you just don't want to hear the answer.

 

I see you lack the expertise to understand, fair enough one day you may understand it. Now what is this connection?

 

I did not, can you give evidence of this connection.

 

Jesus Christ that's hilarious given what's at discussion.

 

You did above

 

Can you give a description of this connection or not.
Kelvin.

 

I understand but Charlie wouldn't. Nor would a blind person or someone unfamiliar. How would you describe the color not in clinical terms? Is there nothing to the experience but units on a scale?