The Folly of Atheism, part 2

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Your imaginary evidence has never presented in this thread,
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Ironic!
     
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    Not sure which is funnier here? Your concern trolling or your complete inability to feel RiaRaeb's knife in your ribs.
     
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    What difference does it make to you? You and all the other atheists will be dead in a few more years. If any of you savors 'counting coup' in a silly, unwinnable war-of-words, or 'sticking knives in ribs', then enjoy yourselves. What has come even clearer into focus for me now is the utter futility and uselessness of the life of any atheist. "The Myth of Sisyphus" comes immediately to mind. But it doesn't matter... perhaps to an atheist, nothing does....

    I won't make the mistake of wandering into another one of these 'atheism' mosh-pit threads again. Bye now, and have a nice day, or whatever it is that atheists have....
     
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    Sure it has. Otherwise you would not be stalking me.
     
  6. William Rea

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    That's cool, I don't believe that you were sincere anyway. I figured you out quite quickly.
     
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    I am an atheist, I lack belief; if you can't show it, you don't know it and I'm not interested in somemanymostism.

    Every time you are challenged you have proven you cant show it proving you dont know it.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...eities-theory.516057/page-101#post-1068313687
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...eities-theory.516057/page-101#post-1068313767

     
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  8. Pollycy

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    That's because you're ever so much smarter than me! Too bad all that intelligence will be utterly dead and gone in a few years.... :skull:

    You are correct. I do now truly understand the atheist credo: "The universe has always been here. It was not created. It will always be here."

    This reminds me very much of the mentality demonstrated by the "Matthew Brady" character in "Inherit the Wind", which was based on the famous 20th-century "Scopes Monkey Trial". At one key point, defense attorney Henry Drummond hammers Brady (a fictional William Jennings Bryan) with a web of questions that completely overwhelm the befuddled man because of their paradoxical nature about the age of the universe (which Brady had already pontificated about).

    Caught in a dilemma not unlike that of this thread's atheists, poor Brady can only sputter, "I do not think about things I do not think about!".
    And Drummond's reply -- "Do you ever think about things that you do think about?"

    Again, the atheist's credo: "The universe has always been here. It was not created. It will always be here." OK.... :roll:

    But, then, by their own admissions, atheists must see all too clearly that although "the universe will always be here" -- they won't be. If that realization doesn't invite them to question their 'beliefs' more closely, it certainly doesn't trouble me at all. It's 'no skin off my ass', one way or the other....' 8)
     
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    Claiming the existance of the universe is evidence of god is absurd. It may be your opinion but it certainly is not evidence. The existance of the universe is proof of the existance of the universe and nothing more.

    Now if you want to claim the existance of evil is evidence of god.....
     
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    Where do you come up with the athiest credo or an athiest credo that says the universe has always been here. Did you ever hear of the big bang or something called science?
     
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    Sorry but you do not get to cherry pick what is or isn't evidence. The universe itself is evidence. Deal with it.
     
  12. Pollycy

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    The atheist's "it's here... it's always been here... it will always be here... and nobody created it!" has been expressed amply in this thread. Just go back and look.

    I have no quarrel at all with 'big bang' or science at all! Furthermore, after poring over many subjects concerning everything from genetics to different religions, I have come to believe in such seemingly 'taboo' conventions as evolution (!), and, about 90% in reincarnation, too. :omfg:

    Like I said in an earlier post, I'm a 'Christian-without-a-church'. I believe in God, the abundantly demonstrated "intelligent creator", and in the human incarnation of that God, the Christ. I do not (NOT) intend to evangelize about this to you or anyone else. I mention it only to make my viewpoint in this thread's puddle of muck as clear as I can. Believe or disbelieve whatever you wish....

    Hint: if the physical body can evolve, I maintain that the soul of mankind can evolve, too. In my view, the Christ of God provides that 'pathway'. Those who do no undergo this evolution-of-the-soul are probably reincarnated, over and over and over.... :lonely:

    Now, tear my legs off my backbone if you wish. Truly, after already overstaying my 'welcome', I'm DONE in this thread.... :sun:
     
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    If you have posted your imaginary "evidence" then what are the post #'s?
    Responding to your posts is not "stalking" but if you want to complain to the mods then no one is stopping you.
     
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    I don't need to question the superstitious beliefs of theists because it is based on stone age ignorance.

    As an atheist I don't waste my time on superstitions and imaginary "creators" because there is way too much factual information about our universe to keep me occupied. There is so much to learn and understand so why fritter my time away on something that does not actually exist anywhere but in the imaginations of theists?

    This life is all I will have and so as an atheist I make the most of every minute of it. I live my life to the full and I do what I can to make the lives of others better and the planet more habitable for future generations. I share my life with my nearest and dearest and make sure that they know that they are loved and appreciated.

    That sure beats wasting time on my knees praying to an imaginary "creator" that won't answer those prayers because it doesn't exist.
     
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    The universe is NOT evidence for the existence your imaginary "creator".

    Can you deal with that?
     
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    So you admit to stalking me.
     
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    I think you should re-read The Myth of Sisyphus, because it covers that very dilemma. At the very least, here is a short video that covers the basic philosophy nicely:

    Long story short: making your own meaning can be pretty fulfilling if you let it be.
     
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    That is only happening in your mind.
     
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    And on this forum.
     
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    So the existance of evil is evidence. Birth defects are evidence. Wars are evidence. By your lack of logic anything can be evidence of anything.
     
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    But the fact that prayers are not answered is evidence that god exists according to doombug.
     
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    LOL! If you had been following from the start you would not be so confused.
     
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    Actually, medical science has shown through mitochondrial DNA that we all have ONE common female ancestor, now dubbed "Eve". No word yet on whether we all have one common male ancestor or if Eve was something of a slut.
     
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    I'm a former believer, now atheist. I'm curious about your belief system, which seems partly Christian and partly Buddhist. If you believe humans are destined to reincarnate over and over until they accept Christ, then humans DON'T go to hell, which makes Jesus wrong, and if Jesus was wrong, then he couldn't have been the Christ. True?
     
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    Prove it!
     

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