the Gay Agenda continued....

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  1. 4Horsemen

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    The claim is proven within the scope of the environment the child will be subjected to.

    Same reason for not allowing a child to drive a car before they can reach the peddles and see over the dashboard. the harm is there already, a tragedy waiting to happen.

    Same reason society won't allow an ex-child molester to not be alone with children. the potential for harm is already there.

    the Gay agenda lifestyle is to corrupt the minds of children period. And it's so ironic that gays would even want children being that their lifestyle naturally keeps them from having them naturally.

    I never understood how "butch" females or effeminante Men would want kids anyway?

    please explain that to me.


    Because a butch female doesn't have the same approach as a Man(father) would with a child. and an effeminate male cannot provide the same nuturing that a real Female could to a child.
     
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    If your commentary is senseless and lacks veracity... what good is it?

    That is your 'belief'; so be it.

    No. You need to prove the connections you are suggesting. Remember (or regard for the first time): Not everyone adheres to your 'beliefs' and moral values. You have your way to thinking/believing... but it is not 'everyone's'.

    This isn't S or G. And many have and still do WRONGLY interpret "history". You have a right to opine, but there are good reasons for any to challenge the things you would communicate. Welcome to 'reality'.
     
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    Oh yeah, right. You step out here as if you know; but you do not actually. It's a disgusting display of fear and irrational animus.

    How is what you're talking about, even close to the same thing. You are just vilifying a wide swath of human beings; that is all you are doing.

    Again, all you seek to do is make homosexual people look sinister and horrible; that is nothing but bigotry being communicated through fear. There are many good and capable HOMOSEXUAL people who can and do raise healthy children. It is your prejudice against homosexual people (and nothing more), which supports the things you are suggesting here. Reality is something else.

    What is "the Gay agenda lifestyle".

    That is an opinion which stems from homophobia and abject prejudice; it isn't based in reality. What I'm saying has been shown in reality many times over. What you're communicating is (to me) slanderous and disgusting. :(

    More of your irrational animus. (It's infuriatingly awful.)

    No, you don't understand. So be it.

    Please, get mental help.

    So, that allegedly is enough for you to deny a person the right to raise a child? How American or Constitutional is that? Are you going to have children removed from hateful, abject racists also? Who else is on your list of those NOT "worthy"?

    Again and for the record: Homosexual individuals and couples have a statistically-backed trend of raising healthy, well-adjusted children. Now, you can object to REALITY all that you wish, but it changes nothing.
     
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    No Fear here. Truth is not afraid.

    I'm condemning the lifestyle because it's immoral, perverted and wrong.
    ...So be it.


    If they are actively involved in perverted lifestyle then yes, they are sinister and have sinister goals. maybe to molest the kids legally (adoption/marriage) behind closed doors where nobody can see or do anything..


    I already broke it down to you. go back and read it. 3 easy goals.


    What I'm saying is in the Bible. no slander there.



    After you explain why "butch" females and effeminate Men want or feel the need to adopt kids when they shouldn't be allowed to?

    Gays are in league with pedophiles in my honest opinion. the environment is not healthy for young impressionable minds. They'll think the gay agenda-lifestyle is ok when actually it's not. it's perverted. but they won't know that if they are not told.


    The 'reality' is... the lifestyle is a choice and it's immoral and perverted. that's not an opinion. that's FACT. You can live in denial all you want.
     
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    That kind of irrational animus, is just dangerous. You remind me of why 'religion' can indeed be a terrible thing.

    We're finished discussing things; I believe your harmful animus is spawned from your religious beliefs; not much to say to that.

    Regards.
     
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    Perversion is as Perversion does. Religion excluded.


    Take care
     
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    I need to address this

    Let's get adoption out of the way. I believe it's in the child's best interest to be adopted by (in order)

    1- a married M/F couple

    2- an unmarried M/F couple with a strong relationship

    3- any single person who displays the ability to raise the child ( I don't care what they do in their bedroom)

    A child needs to be raised in a loving family and exposed to the differences between M and F if at all possible. If not, then why not single people if they are willing to commit to the child?

    Now, on to your other theme. I do not see the tie to pedophilia or homosexuality and why you feel they are in the same "league"?

    With respect to calling something "immoral", that is purely subjective and cannot be legislated, regulated or punished. if you are a hunter and shoot Bambi then perhaps others find that to be immoral.

    Please allow me to ask you something; why do you care what 2 consenting adults do in their bedroom?
     
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    Pedophilia is immoral behavior is it not? So are perverted sexual lifestyles. where are you missing the disconnect?

    Would you have a problem with a Dominatrix raising kids? what about somebody into beastiality?


    I don't. just don't subject little babies and kids to that lifestyle. they don't know what's going on with that and don't understand that it's perveted. My whole argument is for the kids. Gay couples excluded.
     
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    I too support raising kids in homes with loving m/f couples. That is the best scenario. But, if there are not enough decent homes of married couples to go around then why not a home with brother/sister or single people or 2 men or 2 women. Those would be the last choices but a loving home, even with 1 parent is better than no home.

    Are there stories where mom/mom or dad/dad are messing with the kid with hormones, cross dressing etc.............absolutely but those cases are the exception and not the norm and should be investigated for the sake of the child. There are also cases of m/f abusing their children sexually as well as physically; again, the exception, not the norm.
     
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    So then you would agree that anyone that has sex for any other reason than to reproduce or any other sexual position would also be a diviant and should not be around children. How about all the other sins you so called Christians like to ignore.

    Adultery is a sin punishable by stoning - we ignore that one of course.
    Shellfish - also ignored
    Mixing fabrics? That one is out also
    Judging others - rofl. Thats the Christian's favorite past-time. (Please note that I italicized the word Christian as many self proclaimed Christians are no more holy than those they love to condemn)

    As for your statement that gay people are trying to twist children, every report (besides the ones out of most churches) I had read all state that children from SSM's come out just as well adjusted than those from OSM's [source][source][source]. Some studies sugest that children from gay marriages actually do better then their peers [source]. I hope you will have the balls (doubtful) to show some unbiased studies from the drivel that you continue to post - do you base anything on fact or is it just your feelings; and here I though only left wing liberals used feelings as justification for their blindness.

    Its really telling of your character, or lack thereof, to classify a consensual relationship between two adults to be the same thing as a 50 year old man raping a 12 year old girl- very telling...
     
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    no god ever told me it had trouble with homosexuality

    you don’t want to turn people gay became your gay though a desire to tern homosexuals heterosexual seems common in homophobes

    changing the law to be fair despite public opinion may be on the money though

    There doesn’t seem to be anything divine about you buddy the gods ( if any ) are not complaining about homosexuality only the humans are
     
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    thats not true
     
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    Regardless. it's a lifestyle that young children should not be privy to.

    Now, if you wanna adopt a 17-18 yr old. go right ahead, they need your support and love too. but that's not the aim of gays. they want young infants and impressionable kids below the age of 10-12 so they can warp their minds.

    Now let me ask you a question:

    Why aren't gay couples adopting more teenagers vs. infants and toddlers?

    It's like I said already, they WANT the babies
     
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    How is it not true? because you say so?
     
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    if you want to sound better than a hateful loony you do need to prove your claims

    your opinion make a pathetic argument otherwise
     
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    Seems to be your standard for truth

    (*)(*)(*)(*)ing kids is harmful to kids being attracted to the same gender doesn’t harm kids

    i have gay family and friends their around the kids in my family and friends lives there not hurting them the not trying to recruit them or control them for their own gain

    Someone who is sexually attracted to people of the same gender are no more inherently dangerous to kids then us heterosexuals
     
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    see, I told you this would be fun to watch. this is dodge number 1
     
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    I guess that makes me a deviant ;)
     
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    I've already proved my claims.

    How about you prove how same-sex marriage is not perverting a God given law against it? You say to me prove he exists. It's proven everyday you try to get a law passed for it and it gets shot down. Obama helped you by lifting the ban but he only exposed his own immorality in the process.

    and FYI the Bible doens't have to convict you of this obvious perverted lifestyle. Your own morals and soul is doing that right now for you everyday.

    My only concern is to leave the kids out of it. bugger all you want, just don't turn the babies on to that mess.

    Go adopt some teenagers and bums that really need you. the infants and toddlers are off limits to gay couple due to the perversion of the lifestyle.
     
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    have your gay family members adopted kids yet? you talking apples and oranges right now.
     
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    when and where have you proven the crap you spout?
     
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    so your saying homosexuals only convert kids if there legal guardians?

    um are you feeling ok cause your talking crazy.
     
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