The Gay,Lesbian agenda isn't about Gays and Lesbians..

gay people are denied no civil rights. I do not understand where you get that misinformation

step back and consider what you have been fed

a special interest movement, who can vote, own guns, call the fire dept etc etc are now looking for some type of law(s) because they engage in sex differently than 98.3% of the rest of the country. Is that what it now comes down to, we want govt creating silos and groups and dividing us on how we have sex? What's next, do we separate vegans from vegetarians from meat eaters? Do we create laws for lactose intolerant people?

No sir, this November we take the first step in shrinking govt vs expanding it which is what you have been convinced is right. As you get exposed to the real world you will begin to see the difference between liberalism and conservatism. We really don't care what you do. We assure you liberty and do not believe in govt intrusions

 

Why don't you tell me how they're doing on marriages, or job security. Or perhaps on being accepted by some religious groups.

 

anyone can start a church or create a religion if they want. We are free to do that. Do you propose banning that freedom?

any man can marry any woman they choose and vice versa. A male plumber can marry a female cop if they so choose. If a gay male wishes to wed a gay female then knock themselves out.

If you don't like govt being involved in marriage at all them I'm with you on that.

with respect to job security, I do not support creating special protection for those who engage in gay sex. Why do you feel that is needed?

If you are a slacker and at risk of being fired, then get a union job where you can't be fired.

 

The problem isn't with the beliefs, but when you act upon them.

Do you know what gay means, in this context? It means someone who's attracted to the same gender. A gay guy, isn't going to be attracted to a gay gal, because they're two differnt genders.

Sorry, I believe the government should regulate marriage.

Because people are fired because of it?

That's not really how it works.

 

hmmm, people are fired for being gay? How does the employer prove they are gay?

about religion,you are free to start a church if you want

about unions- you have much to learn

about wanting govt to regulate your life- I feel sorry for you but that is your youth speaking. If you aspire to be in academia or some form of taxpayer funded job then I understand your thought process.

It seems to me that you require a touchy feely thing vs pick yourself up and try again. That would explain your interest in liberalism

but here's a little secret

liberals need conservatives to pay for their free stuff. Isn't it ironic, don't you think?

 

Yes.

If you are seen in public with your partner or you are stupid enough to inquire about domestic partner benefits. Then after they fire you, they claim they did it for economic reasons, and it's nearly impossible to prove otherwise. Then they hire someone with less experience to replace you a month later.

 

Yes, there are employers who fire people based on knowing or suspecting that they are gay.

Why would the employer have to prove that they are gay in order to fire them? No proof required. All that's needed is a dislike of gay people and a suspicion that the employee is gay. No one said employers were honest in documenting it as the reason for the firing.

 

ahhh

so we want to enact a law where an employer must prove a negative

good lord what has become of America

 

They say you're gay, and can fire you for it. That's pretty much how it works.

Yes I can if I want to.

Yeah not really intrested at this current time.

I tend to find people who bring up my age, don't have much of an argument left.

I'm not a liberal.

No, because that's not true.

 

The burden should be on the person that was fired to give reasonable proof that it was done on the basis of their sexual orientation/religion/nationality/race/etc, not on the employer to prove that was NOT one of the causes.

The fact that the employer doesn't document these things just helps them out in court, and it should be a fairly high bar to prove.

 

No. The person claiming they were discriminated against must be able to provide evidence that it took place.

 

age- don't kid yourself or give yourself too much credit.

liberal- again, plz don't kid yourself. If some day you are responsible for P+L or a balance sheet you'll become conservative real quick and demand people become responsible and accountable for themselves.

now,about workplace lawsuits- I am no lawyer but have been involved in several lawsuits at my own company and also as a sr mgr at another firm. From my limited personal experience as well as other executives I know who have been through it, I've seen wrongful termination "suits" ( none made it to court) tend to be filed or threatened to be filed by ex employees whose hands are far from clean. I am not saying it never happens but I know of zero cases where a stellar employee with clean hands has been wrongfully terminated. Employers need GOOD EMPLOYEES to help us make a profit. Do you really think we even give one thought to what you do in your bedroom? We just want you to do your frikkin job and be as productive as possible.

To propose providing a protected status to anyone who simply claims to be gay is just putting more burden upon employers.

It is at the point in my business that no employee is to be spoken to behind closed doors unless another manager is with them. We must do these things to be proactive just in case we misjudged our employees and hired a bad egg with an axe to grind against everyone.

We also have a card reader to open our door. It's not because of security but it logs when employees enter and exit the building. We do that so we have evidence should we ever need to terminate someone because they are constantly late or leave early. It also allows us to log traffic in the event there is ever theft (what's that, you don't think some employees steal from their employers) Isn't it sad the things that employers must do to protect themselves just in case an employee feels ill used.

 

that all sounds well and good but we're not talking criminal law here. You don't need evidence to file charges and arrest. You simply need the cash to retain a lawyer to send a letter advising the employer (ex employer) of the intent to sue.

 

That's correct, and it has been going on in the open for so long now, that even leftists and liberal self-hating whites, are having trouble accepting it anymore. It has become too obvious and hypocritical for almost any sane person, to see the truth here. ZOGs use their LTBG sexually perverted PAWNS in a game to destroy America, the ONCE GREAT U.S.A., and the white race. Even Jews are hypocrites, as they intermix and intermarry into white families. The Ashkenazi Jew, mixed white and jewish race, is an example of Jews who are self hating in the highest form. Jews hate white people.......but AshkeNAZIS are BOTH whites and jews. So how do jews reconcile this? They become ultra liberal or ultra conservative, ultra jewish or ultra "christian". But it's false. It's phony. It's a sham.

The sexual perverts, many of who already posted on this thread, don't see themselves as pawns. They don't realize that they're being led around, easily, like sheep. They don't understand that the LIBERAL JUSTIFICATION of their SINS.....are strictly ANTI-CHRISTIAN and PRO-JEWISH, PRO-ZIONIST. These FOREIGNERS who put AMERICA SECOND or AMERICA LAST.........want to destroy the moral fabric, and the white race specifically, not just in one fell swoop. Because it's very difficult to exterminate 200 million whites and Europeans in their own lands. Even though this was first tried in World War 2. So what the ZOG MACHINE does is this........it looks at the big picture. They don't need to destroy the white race, and white countries like the United States, or European countries, in just a few years. But they plan for the EVENTUAL decay and destruction of our glorious societies, over decades and centuries.

Already the ZIONISTS are in control of America, have hijacked our political parties and corrupted our politicians. These "AMERICANS", in name only, actually put ISRAEL FIRST, AMERICA SECOND OR LAST. They're not American FIRSTERS. What we need to do is purge these AMERICA SECONDERS or AMERICA LASTERS. They don't belong in the United States, or anywhere near us, clearly.

These sexual perverts and deviants want to promote SIN. That's their first method to undermine the long term success of our countries and nations. They want to promote sexual liberalism, race-mixing, and having gay sex. They promote pornography, create and supply it. Think of it like a deadly drug that weakens our nation. By using and CONTROLLING SIN, and sex, the zio-liberfascists want to enslave the white, AND BLACK, population this way. These zionist FREAKS do not hate ONLY whites....and people need to understand this. They hate blacks, latinos, and asians too. They hate anybody who gets in their way, sees them for what they are, and anybody who is TRUE CHRISTIAN or has common sense, moral values. They hate moral values.

They promote gay sex and race mixing......but THEMSELVES do not practice their own liberal agenda. THIS IS HYPOCRISY!!!!! And you can see through their lies this way. Anybody who promotes gay, homo sex, ought to PRACTICE WHAT THEY PREACH FIRST!!! Don't be a typical liberal hypocrite scum bag. INSTEAD, put your money where your mouth is, GO HAVE GAY SEX IF YOU WANT TO SUPPORT IT. Otherwise, shut the HELL UP!!!!!

I hate these hypocrites with so much, so much SO MUCH hate. It's so difficult to contain this hatred for LIARS and degenerates, and sexual perverts...... I hate these liars SO MUCH.

 

Actually you're wrong, MORALITY is a social activity. No society can exist without a moral foundation. And in a moral foundation, we all work TOGETHER, NOT SEPARATELY. The sexual pervert movement, led by LIBERALS AND LEFTISTS, are directed, usually by foreign influence, to promote their slutty, disgraceful, SINFUL, corrupt activities to moral and upright families. YOU LEFTISTS are responsible. But the problem with talking about responsibility and leftism or liberalism, is that it's a contradiction. Liberals are never responsible for anything. It's an ideology of young children, who only care about themselves, never other people.

A liberal preaching about "ending hunger" or starvation is the biggest HYPOCRITE AND LIAR in the universe. If you want to feed starving families, then GO DO IT YOURSELF!!! Liberals actually are worse, in terms of "helping others", in any way.

 

Do you want to know what is more disgusting??

Turning whites against each other, and then using sexual perverts as PAWNS.....then when one white person strikes down another white, who is a sexual deviant and pervert, then all the liberals flock to the "hurt" sexual pervert and deviant, to "protect" him or her. What they don't realize is the motivation underneath all this, and what CAUSES made that person a sexual PERVERT in the first place. They are blind to the true causes motivating people.

 

Actually morality is the "business" OF THE ENTIRE SOCIETY!!!!!!!! Morality is never simply contained to individuals. Morality is SOCIAL, NOT INDIVIDUAL. You protestants are FALSE CHRISTIANS!!!!

 

Sexual perversion is a "civil right"????

LIBS like you would legalize defecating and fornicating in public next, wouldn't you??? How dare you "JUDGE" another person, a HUMAN WITH DIGNITY, who defecates and fornicates in public???

 

No, you're wrong. Morality is OBJECTIVE. Is it ever "subjective" about THOU SHALT NOT KILL?????

Do you get to pick and choose, when you FEEL like it, to murder other people????

NO, so you're wrong. And you agree with me.

What "freedom"??? You mean the "freedom" to become a sexual pervert? Do we also have the "freedom" to have sex with animals too????

The problem is with giving degenerates and irresponsible people, in society, the RESPONSIBILITY of governing anything, including themselves.

We see now, these days, how big it was a mistake to give morons and idiots the "right" to vote. Stupid people in large numbers is the biggest threat to mankind.

I didn't know sodomy was a "CIVIL RIGHT", LOOOOOOOOL!!!

How long until Obama, our "GREAT LEADER", illegalizes TRUE CHRISTIAN CHURCHES from "discriminating" against queers and homos who want to "marry" in them???

How long until the STATE steps in, and mandates that TRUE CHRISTIANS ought to follow corrupt laws of men, rather than absolute laws of GOD???

So blind

 

You're wrong.

Heterosexual can reproduce. Homosexual people can't. Homosexuals do not CONTRIBUTE children to society. And what they can "CONTRIBUTE" to society, other than depraved perverted liberal propaganda, is questionable. Homos do NOT contribute to society. They are a drag on society, a dead weight, as are most other degenerate people. There are limits to "protecting" the weakest links in U.S. society. And we, as a nation, are quickly coming to the point where the stress of the chain will break, and the "weakest link" will need to be replaced.

WHO is the weakest link??? We'll see..........

 

YES, you have an agenda without even knowing it.

Your first agenda is SIN, and spreading your sexually perverted ways by liberal justifications. You want to have sex, like animals, without direction.....and you want to promote your "alternative lifestyle" as if it were TOLERABLE to us. But it's not, and it never will be.

 

Just drop the age.

Yeah sure.

http://hrpeople.monster.com/news/articles/1212-fired-for-being-gay
http://www.aclu.org/lgbt-rights/mississippi-sheriffs-department-fires-corrections-officer-being-gay
http://www.insidebayarea.com/califo...lism-and-insults-merced-county-ex-deputy-says

You say you want the job done? A job in this case, is done by a team. If one member of the team doessn't feel like they're being treated well, it hurts the job doesn't it?

I don't care about your company, I care about the whole in this situation.

 

and right there is where you realy still need to listen to experience and well..............you know

you have no clue how disruptive liberalism makes things. It's destructive yet cloaked in "good intentions"

I have tried to share with you real worlexperience but you do not want to listen; a classic liberal in the making.

I do wish you well but unless your outlook chnages you are goingto have a tough go at it.

And FWIW, none of us employers care that you are gay. We don't care if you are a female, a male, black, white, red, yellow or a space alien.

We just want you to do your job. Sadly, it seems that at your young age you are already convinced that because you are gay that the world is against you............you have some serious growing up to do.

 

I have a long list.

I think it might be helpful for you to define "sexual pervert". Or, try to give a real-world example of what you are trying to communicate above.

You are relating in such general terms ("sexual pervert"), that I cannot be certain what you mean.

This is even more vague.

 

Derp. I guess the stork brought my 20yo son. Then again, he does have red hair. Maybe he's the mailman's kid.