The Great Biden Convergence

Or in the local vernacular, a real shiite show.

The latest Biden disaster fueled by, among other things, shoveling money to Ukraine in a futile attempt to bankrupt Russia.

Get ready, this'll hurt.

https://share.newsbreak.com/3oiwhm1f

 

For a good primer on what this all means, here's a good explanation.

https://unherd.com/2023/04/americas-empire-is-bankrupt/

 

Meanwhile, in the real world:

Senators join House lawmakers in pushing for bold Ukraine victory resolution

Alexander Nazaryan·Senior White House Correspondent
Tue, April 25, 2023 at 11:00 AM CDT·7 min read

WASHINGTON — At a time when many Americans, and some of the legislators who represent them in Washington, are growing weary of supporting the defense of Ukraine, a new bipartisan House resolution introduced Tuesday calls on the United States to support an outright victory over Russia.

“We must not repeat the error of Sept. 1, 1939,” the resolution’s chief sponsor, Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., told Yahoo News, referencing Adolf Hitler’s invasion of Poland, which followed desperate efforts to appease Nazi Germany and prevent a second world war.

Notably, the resolution, which requires review from the House Foreign Affairs Committee before a vote from the full chamber, “affirms that it is the policy of the United States to see Ukraine victorious against the invasion and restored to its internationally recognized 1991 borders.”

... https://news.yahoo.com/senators-joi...old-ukraine-victory-resolution-160006395.html​

80 years after stepping up to stop Nazism in Germany, it's time once again to do our part to stop Muscovite naZism in its tracks in Ukraine.

 

Yeah, we got Putin now!

Don't be silly.

 

The Ukrainians will expel the invaders. It's not about "getting" Putler, as much as his shills want us to think it is. He started this war of imperial conquest and fascist domination over another country and has only himself to blame.

 

Let me know how that goes. I won't hold my breath, though.

 

You could just follow the news to know how that goes. It's going to be quite a summer, that's for sure.

 

It's costing US peanuts to destroy the RuZZkis.....30+ yr old equipment and no US/NATO boots on the ground....250K+ dead orcs....300K+ injured....300POWs.....a ruble that toilet paper....Russkis fleeing....sounds good to me.

 

I hope so but the Biden admin has already told Ukraine they will be slowing down aid due to the election. We can expect Democrats to do their usual lying and trying to blame Republicans but the actual truth is elections are coming and that is why. I note that Biden has still refused to supply ATACOMs or even badly needed air defense systems beyond a few token examples. That really leaves Ukraine exposed.

I even wonder how well they can do offensively without such equipment. If the spring offensive doesn't go well we can expect the Biden admin to try to push Ukraine into a cease fire which essentially would mean a Russian partial win. So hope Ukraine makes big advances soon.

 

I haven't heard anything about slowing down aid. Not seeing that on Google.

 

Dat it is -- and not just that Ukraine is under equiped -- is also that Russia is beefing it up

Try a different search engine -- "Dogpile" "Duck Duck Go" try to get out of the propaganda zone Durandal -- Now that you know propaganda exists in the Western media you need to expand those horizons.

You should start with RT ..

 

Watch this video. BTW he is pro-Ukraine if you are wondering.

 

What is this pile of crap? Does he cite any valid source?

 

If you watched it then you would know.

 

I'm watching it and the answer to my question is "no." He mentions something that Biden or another official said, namely that aid is likely to slow with Republicans in control of the House, and then this guy proceeds to claim that the administration is planning to slow aid for a different reason and shifting the blame onto the Republicans, all based on that statement and apparently his personal bias.

And here you are repeating his opinion as though it were fact.

 

you really don't get it, do you. there are no good guys and bad guys in this scenario. the ukrainian government is crap, the russian government is crap. this is all about nato moving their forces further toward moscow and the russians being paranoid about that move. all the rest is theater.

 

Oh, there are definitely bad guys, that would be the Russian invaders who attempted to illegally invade and annex another country. So, yes, helping the defenders repel the fascist invaders is a very good thing.

 

The 'crap' Ukranina government didn't try to invade the territory of the 'crap' Russian government. It hasn't been flattening Russian cities & murdering thousands of Russian civilians. If you can't see the difference between the two then you have no business offering opinions on such weighty matters.

 

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your understanding of good and bad is primitive at best. are you incapable of understanding the needs and even fears of others? i suspect this is the case, but i would hope that it is not. that the ukrainian government has been abusing certain elements of their society is easily verifiable. in this respect - yes, they are crap. that nato has made a point of constantly moving its armaments closer and closer to the heart of the russian homeland is equally verifiable. in this respect - yes, they are crap. that the russians have used these facts to invade their neighbor is obvious. in this respect - they too are crap. everyone engaged in this fiasco is contributing to an insane death spiral and none are blameless. this world is full of crap.

 

Yawn. Oh, is someone trying to justify war crimes again?

 

Newton's 3rd law -

"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction"

Looks like it applies to governments too when setting sanctions etc..

 

Not exactly a "winning" formula....

 

Reguritating Kremlin propaganda doesn't constitute an argument. It also doesn't justify the amorality of trying to mount a 'both sides' argument whedn one side just invaded the other for the crime of resisting the last invasion.

The 'abuse of certain segments of their society' is a Kremlin talking point, not a fact. Russian claims rely on classifying Ukraine's response to Russia setting up illegal entities on its soil and then sending troops into Ukaine as 'abuse'. Normal humans would call this 'self defence'. Oh, and all those figures you see about Ukranians allegedly killed by 'Azov Nazis' rely on you NEVER investigating the details. Looks like they were right.

As for NATO 'moving its armaments closer and closer', thre is simply no polite way to describe an idea tha tis not only totally divorced from the reality of what happened, but that treats nations that CHOSE to join NATO as if they have no right to make such decisions. Lets be clear about this, for decades, and in some cases centuries, Russia occupied swathes of Eastern Europe against the will of the people who lived there. Depending on location Russia committed acts of mass murder, 'ethnic cleasing' via mass deportation and often denied peopple the most basic rights, like freedom of speech, movement, and in some cases even the freedom to speak their own languages. When the USSR collapsed many of these peoples were finally freed from Russian domination & control.

Based on their histories and Russia's continuing behaviour on its borders these nations reasonably believed that as soon as Russia regained its strength they would once again be dominated by Russia. So, they practically begged to join the only organization that could protect them & the newly democratic societies they were creating. They were correct. Even the most limited reading of Russian pronouncements makes it clear that Russia believes it has a right to dominate the nations on its periphery. This isn't just rhetoric. Russia has been backing it up with actions continuously since it was powerful enough to do so and even when it was too weak to do it peoperly. The idea that 'NATO is advancing toward Russia' is more Russian propaganda that plays into the sort of victimhood myths that drive Russia's view of the world. They exist for the brainwashed, the feeble minded and the pathologically anti-Western.

The only threat NATO poses to Russia is that it stops Russia turning those nations into copies of itself - corrupt and ineptly run dictatorships like Belarus. That someone would insist nations tolerat this instead of the freedom & prosperity offered by the EU & protected by NATO is the very definition of amoral.

 

So you believe what the news media say?

 

You don't get it. It's about Putin and pals expanding Russian territorial holdings and plugging vulnerabilities that were created with the loss of their former satellites. Plus, Putin is really butthurt about the collapse of the USSR and about Ukrainian independence.