The growing issue of racism in the democrat party.

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  1. mitchscove

    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Where does it say 4 is a Natural Born Citizen? It doesn't. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to pass off bullshit.
     
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    That is why I provided the link. There are numerous scenarios it covers. You are wrong because you choose to be ignorant.
     
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    Educate yourself:
    ARTICLE II, SECTION 1, CLAUSE 5

    Our Framers had no need to define “Natural Born Citizen” in the Constitution, because by the time of the Federal Convention of 1787, a formal definition of the term consistent with the new republican principles already existed in Emer Vattel’s classic, Law of Nations. It is well known, that Our Founding Fathers used the “Law of Nations” as their reference during discussions and ratification of the Constitution. During 1775, Charles Dumas, an ardent republican [as opposed to a monarchist] living in Europe sent three copies of Vattel’s Law of Nations to Benjamin Franklin. Here is a portion of Franklin’s letter of Dec. 9, 1775 thanking Dumas for the books:

    “… I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the law of nations. Accordingly that copy, which I kept, (after depositing one in our own public library here<<<Philadelphia where the Continental Congress was meeting>>>, and sending the other to the College of Massachusetts Bay, as you directed,) has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting, who are much pleased with your notes and preface, and have entertained a high and just esteem for their author…”


    “§ 212: Natural-born citizens are those born in the country of parents who are citizens” <<<NOTE>>> The Plural Form of “Parent(s)” and “Citizen(s)” are used by Vattel!!! Vattel’s Model and that of Our Constitutional Republic as understood by Our Founding Fathers, Citizens are “natural born” only if they are born from “Citizen(s)” <<<PLURAL>>> & “Parent(s)” <<<PLURAL>>>!!!

    https://themarshallreport.wordpress...-of-natural-born-citizen-in-our-constitution/
     
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    That's not the Constitution, is it?
    This is:

    Amendment XIV
    Section 1.

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Providing more right-wing blather from a right-wing blog sure makes you look (fill in the blank).:roll:
     
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    Not worth dealing with birthers.

    Rafael ' Lying Ted' Cruz was born in Canada. His mother was an American citizen but his father was from Communist Cuba and not a citizen at the time of " Lying Ted's " birth.

    So if the gentleman you are responding to believes thatvObama is not natural born Lying Yed is also not natural born. The joke is on the gentleman they both are citizens. Obama and Lying Ged Cruz.
     
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    You're saying a naturalized citizen can become President?

    A person willing to learn would ask themselves why the framers of the Constitution gave themselves a carve out because none could be Natural Born Citizens by the definition known at the time, that defined by Vattel, but they were all citizens.
     
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    I don't think Cruz is eligible. His father was not a citizen at the time of his birth.
     
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    No you need to educate yourself. The 1790 Naturalization Act addressed the definition of Natural Born Citizens and that definition applies to children of citizens who were born "beyond the seas". That makes Lying Ted Cruz a citizen by his mother. That does not apply to Obama because Obama is a natural born citizen on his own. The Naturalization Act of 1790 does not address persons born here.

    The Constitution does not address ". Natural born " and the Supreme Court never ruled on it.

    The 14 Amendment defines any person born on US soil or sibjectbto the jurisdiction of the US is automatically a citizen. So John MCCain born in Panama but in the Panama Canal Zone which at the time of his birth was under US jurisdiction was legally a US citizen.
     
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    Does not matter that his father was not his mother was.
     
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    And 0.3% of republicans are black.

    If, one is honest and not blind.
     
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    The republicans only vote on skin color. And it's only 1 color they vote on, ivory snow white.

    There is only a token black so they can claim, see, we have a black member.
     
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    Yea I guess that makes up for his racist past, and even the recent past of telling black people he will take thier blackness away if they dont do what he says.

    Racism is an issue in the democrat party because of how easily you give a pass to racists in your party.
     
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    Republicans dont care about skin color, we vote based on merit.

    Dems however, elect people based on skin color over merit.

    Yet that doesn't stop dems from electing and openly racist president in Racist Joe.
     
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    Thats indicative not of racism, but of democrat propaganda that dems push out about republicans.

    Yet doesn't remove the fact you elected a racist president.
     
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    I happen to know about Naturalization because I was Naturalized as a citizen. Being naturalized makes you a citizen but does NOT make you a Natural Born citizen. To serve as POTUS you need to be a Natural Born citizen not just a citizen. That is why I did not run in the Republican primary nor in thevDemocractic primary. The Republican primary was all set since there was no real candidate against Trump. I decided not to run as a Democrat either. I decided to let Biden run and win.
     
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    False, he was wrongly impeached by the party of division, dems.

    And voted out based on propaganda, by dems with support of the fake news machine.

    Dems are so emotional in their thinking, they literally forgive Bidens open racism because the MSM told them Trump is worse.

    Astounding lol.
     
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    We are always about the future.
    The past is to remember and not repeat.
     
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    Republicans are all about color.
    That's why you, as a republican, started this thread.

    Every thread on this site that is black related is started by a republican. And more specifically, a trump republican.
    Who took out a full page ad in NY in the 80s to execute 5 black teens. Later acquitted because they were innocent. So yeah, trump republicans are all about white supremacy.
     
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    It is, it means there's hardly a black in the country with republican values. I suspect they are more about inclusive as opposed to white being supreme.
     
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    10 republicans in the house voted to impeach at impeachment #2. The most bipartisan impeachment in history.
     
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    False, there are tons of black people in the country wtih Republican values. But democrat propaganda has them believing otherwise.

    There is a reason Trump recieved more black votes than most in moderrn day on the republican side. Thats because people are waking up, black people in particular are realizing dems have been lying to them.

    Change in coming, and its not one that favors dems.

    But yet, dems still elected a racist president Racist Joe. Smh, that needs to change for the better of our country, we dont need an openly racist leader like him.
     
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    Social engineering affects all, though disproportionately dems.

    Nonetheless, they never could point to anything Trump said that incited the violence.

    So yes, both impeachments were a sham and history will remember it as such.
     
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    Republicans are all about merit. IT is dems who play identify politics and care about color. They elect people on color, promote on color, and shame people on color.

    I started this thread, to point out the evil in the dem party that needs to change.

    The evil that got an open racist like racist joe elected.

    You can choose to ignore what you dont like, but history is not going to look favorably on dems.
     
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    Yet you did by hiring racist joe.

    but no you aren't about the future. All your party has done for years is shame people for jokes from 20 years ago lol.

    Your party hired racist joe, and lost all credibility as being progressive.

    Dems have been genuinely regressive in both divisiveness and narrative, as well as policy.
     
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