The ineffectiveness of Ron Paul

here's a current delegate count

romney - 516

santorum - 236

gingrich - 141

paul - 66

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/republican_delegate_count.html

delegates aside, the point is that ron paul is only getting a small portion of the total votes in state primaries

the bottom line is that he isn't going to be nominated by the gop and he'll never be the president

 

This post has obviously degenerated into bickering. I'm going to try to bring it back on track...

It's easy to look at one statistic and make an inference, but the likelihood of that inference being correct is pretty low. Here's an article by the Washington Post (Ron Paul's House Record Stands Out For Its Futility and Tenacity)

I'm going to quote that article, not in its entirety, but enough to show both sides of the argument, starting under the sub-title "Rejection as a Constant".

The article goes on to say Michele Bachmann has sponsored 45 bills in her five years without any bills passing both houses. So failure is common in congress. In fact...

That's a fun statistic. Let's just assume that the number is exactly 69,000. That means that in (lets just call it 25) years, congress has passed 2,760 laws. I'm going to ignore the ridiculousness of the number of laws we have. I'll explore that in another post. For now, I'll stay on topic.

OK, there it is, Ron Paul does have a lot of failure under his belt. His campaign manager is using this as a positive though:

Earlier in the article, former Tennessee Congressman Zach Wamp was quoted as saying:

In Conclusion...
Compared to the overall statistics, Ron Paul has an abnormally low success rate when it comes to passing bills as a congressman, but this does not automatically mean he would fail as president.

 

Those are only projected delegates, not bound delegates. Please provide a source that shows bound delegates only.

That I agree with.

When he runs as an Independent he will have a much better shot. But you are also correct about this because he will "commit suicide" before his inauguration even if he were to win in the general election.

 

no he won't have a much better shot, if he does run as an independent, he'll just dilute the gop vote

 

R-416
S-170
G-133
P-26
3/16/2012

You asked.

26 delegates, a comedy.
3.5% of the total bound delegates.
The "unbound" delegates do NOT HAVE to vote for the candidate that WON their districts, but most of them will.

Paul is already long out of the competition and should have already dropped out as he eventually will.

And Paul is not going to run as an independent.

All I can glean from you Paulobots is that you are ALL frustrated obama voters and want obama reelected. Because no rational mind could believe Paul ever had any chance in a party or as a 3rd party/independent candidate. So it looks like all you want is a split vote to insure that the incompetent fool obama is reelected.
That is the only rational explanation for your completely irrational and constant rants in opposition to any reality.

And WHAT is with the suicide looniness?

 

Lets hope the unbound delegates are not dumb and vote for Ron.

 

The likelihood is that ALL of them will vote for the candidate that already HAS 1144 bound delegates at convention time. And it will not be Paul.
If he had EVERY unbound delegate now, he'd still be a distant second. Second is the leader of the losers.

 

losers support statists.

 

More baseless claims.

Perhaps.

Please prove that it is mathematically impossible for Paul to win the nomination.
Or are you just talking out of your ass again?

Sure, if he doesn't win he will.

Maybe he will, maybe he won't. I don't purport to predict the future.

That makes no sense. There's a far greater difference between Obama and Paul than there is between Obama and any of the other 3 Republican clowns you support.

No, it's just that you have been brainwashed by the media into believing that there is a huge difference between Obama and the Republican neo-conservatives. Obama is no more incompetent than Romney, Santorum, or Gingrich. If either of those 4 get into the White House, nothing will change from the current path we're on. 4 years from now, we're going to be in more debt, we'll be less free, we'll be involved in more military entanglements, and the government will be bigger than it is now. Which is OK if you hate the Constitution, freedom, peace, and prosperity.

This part of your post is just fluff. I could easily destroy you in a debate on any political topic of your choice.

He'd be messing with some very powerful special interests that include the largest financial powers of the world. These wealthy socialists absolutely hate freedom, especially the free market and the Constitution. You don't think that anyone would put a hit on Paul if he were elected President? You are living in a fantasy world.

 

A vote against Ron Paul is a vote for tyranny.

 

i doubt that

many are irrational, some are just unscrupulous and will foist any lie they think might trick know-nothings into voting for paul

 

It's this sort of irrationality on the part of Paul's lemmings that I find hilarious. "If you don't vote for Paul you hate liberty." What a load of hogwash.

 

You have a vivid imagination. And wildly unrealistic opinions. But that is just my opinion opposed to your opinions. Mine is formed from long experience. Rejecting brainwashing from either side. Yours is formed wholly from brainwashing on one side.



Candidate........Soft Pledged............Soft Unpledged...............Soft Total................Hard Total

Romney,.........429 22.95%............86 20.62%....................515 22.53%...............407 17.80%


Santorum........191 10.22%............ 48 11.51%....................239 10.45%...............170 7.44%


Gingrich,............ 141 7.54%.............16 3.84%....................157 6.87%...............133 5.82%


Paul,................39 2.09%..............39 9.35%....................78 3.41%.................26 1.14%

Reality BITE IT!

 

Some of you just don't get it. It's a reason Ron Paul is still in the race. INTEGRITY.

Because if he was to drop out, you clowns would say "See, I told you wasn't up to the task, he's too old yad yada" but since he's still in it, you clowns can't say that and I know you want to deep down inside but it won't happen.

Ron Paul supporters are going to rock this political boat in November. we are sick and tired of the lame-brain game played by the career politicians. NO MORE. IT ENDS IN 2012.

So forget all your numbers, stats, figures, projections, they mean NOTHING.

You Romney-drones, Newtaholics and Sanitorums are making the entire country look BAD!

And if Obama wins, so be it. it's time to wake people up. a good shock from Obama's upcoming policies should do the trick since you don't care for sound policies from a Constitutionlist like Ron Paul.

 

Agreed....

 

More like INSANITY.

 

what a joke, the reason ron paul won't be nominated by the gop and he'll never be president is because this country doesn't want an old nut case for president

 

I tend to agree and disagree.

Certianly a vote for Santorum is a vote against liberty.

As far as Mitt and Newt are concerned I do not think either would be as aquiesent to the religious right (the real haters of liberty) as it would appear.

Mitt and Newt pander to the religious right because they want and need the votes. This is a bit hypocritical but it is a political reality.

The reason I like Paul is because he states what he believes and panders way less than the other candidates.

Unfortunately, because of his honesty, he will not get the nomination.

The raging ignorant masses would rather vote for someone who tells them what they want to hear as opposed to what they need to hear.

 

as opposed to the lemmings who have put into place those who have gotten us to this point.
impecable track record for you.

 

I see you were incapable of responding to any of my points so you resorted to feel-good, faith based opinionated responses calling me "inexperienced". Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep better at night. But the fact is that you still believe there is a difference between Obama and the other three Republican clowns. Which is exactly what the establishment counts on. You have been programmed nicely.

More baseless claims.

 

no, this country wants easy painless answers when there are none.
But don't worry, every major western central bank expanding its balance sheet an unprecedented rates, in the face of debt saturation and negative utility of debt will work out well.

 

So what is it about Ron Paul's ideological positions that you don't like?

 

He's an unrealistic idiot living in the 18th century.

 

translation : he's not a big government corporatist that promised easy fixes when there are none.

 

What's so insane about making sure YOU and YOUR kids can live in country free from tyranny?