The Israeli settlements are illegal

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The legal advisor to Israel's Foreign Minister in 1967 said that civilian settlements in the West Bank would be illegal.

    The US State Department agreed with this assessment.

    The UN, the International Court of Justice, the Conference of the High Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention, the EU, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, all believe the settlements are illegal.

    Even according to the Palestine Mandate and the Balfour Declaration, the settlements are illegal as they both state that Jewish settlement in Palestine would be allowed as long as nothing is done which discriminates against or prejudices the civil and human rights of non-Jews in Palestine. The Israeli occupation includes many laws and regulations that discriminate against Palestinian while favor Israelis.

    Clearly, the settlements are illegal. Israel shall occupy the West Bank until the final status is decided between then and the Palestinians, and may have security aparatuses to make this possible, but civilian settlements for Israelis in the West Bank (Arab Palestine) are illegal.
     
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    Banana Split Ice cream... The knowledge of the truth is in this clip

    http://youtu.be/dp4f3wXwyZg
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    show some integrity and post your own knowledge not some Youtube cartoon.
     
  4. HBendor

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    Normally cartoons compete with cartoons.

    I endorse 'you tube' explanation, you do not....
    So publish your own version in a cartoon or forever be quiet.
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what does your cartoon say?

    im not gonna watch it. you're gonna have to be an adult and use your own words
     
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    ......

     
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    a meaningless factoid.

    Jews who want to live in the west bank are free to do so. They just have to declare themselves palestinian and renounce their israeli citizenship or immigrate.
    Israeli's do not have the right to expand their borders into the belligerently occupied territories.


    BFD. that's like saying somebody is only 4.2% pregnant.

    Yep they could be incorporated and that is the entire premise of "facts onthe ground" strategy. I still doesn't make it legal.

    So all those road blocks, checkpoints, security patrols are in area C. And btw - do you have any proof that area c is virtually vacant? not that it is really relevant, I'm just curious as to the source of this "statistic".

    The armistice line was and is internationally recognized as the starting point of negotations on borders.


    how about then number of unauthorized west bank israeli communities? Are you suggesting that the territory consumed by these pre 1993 settlements has remained the same?

    amazing what can happen when the palestinians focus on building instead of destroying or sitting around whinging about how victimized they are. You may recall the huge boom in 1993 thru 1997 before it started going south again.

    Of course there was no palestinian state, the entire are was a colony prior to 1948. Israel didn't exist prior to 1948, but it won its independence. Too bad the arabs screwed the pooch, and clearly proved to the world that their priority was not the establishment of a palestinian state, but the utter destruction of the fledgling jewish one.

    You seriously think that? IMO, there will never be such a thing as "true" peace as you describe. that time is now relegated to history.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The built up areas of Israeli settlements cover approximately 1.7 percent of all West Bank land.


    so fine, let the Israelis keep only 1.7% of the West Bank.

    ;)
     
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    I'm only the messenger as Ronstar said he didn't want to watch a vid so I googled up a transcript.
     
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    now it makes some sense. thanks.
     
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    Muslim nazi Propaganda sounds like the Israeli towns and cities are 80% of all Jeuda and Samaria land..
    Is it really 1.7% ??
    Sooooooo much moaning and hatred for a lousy 1.7% ???
    Like if i own a house on a half acre lot, my neighbor will explode in my back yard for 8 square feet ..
     
  12. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so let the Israelis keep the 1.7% and give the other 98.3% to the Palestinians!!!!!!
     
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    We normally do not give anything away the SOB have to fight for it and eventually die for it most of the time.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if the settlements only make up 1.7% of the West Bank, why doesn't Israel just keep the settlements and let the Arabs have the other 98.3%?
     
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    If the palestinians are 85% of Jordan, why doesn't King Hussain Jr. just keep Amman and the rest give to the palestinian bedouin to have their true country ?
     
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    less than 1/3rd of Jordan are Palestinians, buddy.
     
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    MYTH ALERT , MYTH ALERT
    Prove it ( Try Wikipedia ) or please back off with an apology.
     
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    Israel is a rogue state illegally occupying land and smugly breaking countless U.N. resolutions and has no interest in peace or any solution that doesn't ethnically cleanse Palestinians off the face of the earth and expand greater Israel into every country that surrounds them. Jewish people of faith condemn the actions of this roque government as it does not represent the tenets of Jewish faith.
     
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    Actually it is a member of the United Nations and is not considered a 'Rogue State' by anybody other than the reality challenged.

    In wartime land is occupied until the peace treaty is signed. This is all legal under UN Charter.

    :roflol: But none whatsoever against those who started this war after disregarding UN Resolution 181. I think you are forgetting that their declaration of war on Israel was the thing that got this entire ball rolling.

    Strange, many of faith actually vie for Israel to do things like this much to the chagrin of many Israelis.
     
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    Really? How so?
     
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    Never-mind, I thought you were arguing that the Arabs screwed up by not accepting Res. 181 in 1948.

    But you with regards to what you actually argued, it can also be said that Israel iself was never interested in seeing the establishment of a Palestinian state. So why did the Palestinians have to even bother?
     
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    Neither sides leadership was interested in peace.

    Why would they be interested as long as the money kept flowing in from the U.S. and Iran and the Arab states.

    Look at this....

    Arafat remains a highly controversial figure whose legacy has been widely disputed. He was "revered by many Arabs," and most Palestinians, regardless of political ideology or faction, viewing him as a freedom fighter who symbolized their national aspirations. However, he was also reviled, especially by many Israelis, who viewed him as a terrorist responsible for hundreds of bombings and deaths.[4][5] Critics have accused Arafat of mass corruption, secretly amassing a personal wealth estimated to be USD $1.3 billion by 2002 despite the degrading economic conditions of the Palestinians.[6]

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Abu Adolf Nazi Arafat.
     

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