The Left is Busily Planting Fake Red-Meat Conservative News Sites

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  1. Space_Time

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    This is a problem. I can find news articles on partisan websites but I always go back to the straight news story in case the partisan website has applied it's own spin to the article or it's a fake news site. Usually the fake news story is so dumb or outrageous so that it's easy to see as with World News Daily Report.

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    The Left is Busily Planting Fake Red-Meat Conservative News Sites
    Many of the fake stories conservatives are tricked into sharing have been planted by the left to make fools of us.
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    By RACHEL ALEXANDER Published on August 31, 2016 • 487 Comments

    Rachel Alexander
    Almost all of us have been a victim of accidentally spreading fake news at one time. A trusted friend emails you a link to an article that is red meat for the conservative base; it sounds legitimate, and the name of the site even sounds official. You forward the article and post it on Facebook and Twitter — and then the backlash is embarrassing. Multiple people point out you’re wrong, and you feel like an idiot. But how were you to know, especially in this information overload, social media era? It has become normal to quickly skim articles and headlines. And why would you suspect your most trusted, intelligent friends would be sending you false news?

    It used to be The Onion was the only satire news site. And the site makes it very clear its news is satire. But within the last year, multiple sites (there is a list compiled here) have sprung up that do not make it clear they are satire, if at all. They brazenly post fake news that isn’t even funny, like The Onion, but sounds like legitimate news.

    By posting these outlandish tales, the sites attract many page views, which allows them to make money from advertisers. Even more nefarious, some are run by Democrats in order to make conservatives look like radical extremists. The strategy, an insider told me, is to fool so many conservatives into spreading a ridiculous, fake article that finally a prominent elected official falls for it. Then the left pounces on the official and makes them look foolish and/or an extremist.

    As I’ve written previously, putting out heroic stories about Donald Trump that turn out to be false doesn’t help Trump when people discover they are false.

    Some of the worst offenders are sites that rip off names from legitimate conservative news sites. World News Daily Report is a typical example. It sounds very similar to the conservative site WorldNetDaily, which recently renamed itself to WND. The disclaimer on the site says nothing about the news being fake; instead, it disingenuously states that the site is not responsible for inaccurate information. The fake site’s “About us FAQ” page pretends to cater to conservative Jews and Christians with a strong defense of Israel. Yet how are fake news articles helping Israel? The site has become so successful that the myth-debunking site Snopes now lists it second on its “Field Guide to Fake News Sites and Hoax Purveyors.”

    For some of these sites, the proverbial chickens have come home to roost. The gossip website Gawker was recently sued by celebrity wrestler Hulk Hogan for posting a sex tape of him, which put the company into bankruptcy and forced it to shut down a week ago. There are many ways these sites could be sued out of existence, such as for libel or the unauthorized use of images. Facebook has started removing these articles from users’ news feeds. Perhaps a developer can create an app to add to browsers that will specifically block these sites.

    The people who run these sites are nothing more than cruel bullies who should get a taste of their own medicine. It is one thing to identify a story as parody, but to deliberately print false news to trick innocent people in order to make them look bad and destroy their credibility is dishonest, a nuisance and an abuse of the press. If they knowingly put false news about a crime or catastrophe out over TV, they would be prosecuted, due to the dangers of creating substantial public harm such as a mass panic.

    Until these sites are curtailed, conservatives must get into the habit of looking up news articles regularly on myth-debunking sites like Snopes (granted, that particular site leans to the left). If The New York Times isn’t breaking some huge story, but a site called Your News Wire is, that is a good indication it may be a fake article.
     
  2. cd8ed

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    Cons? Actually researching a topic before regurgitating false information...
    :roflol:
     
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    Oh gawd.
    This is delicious.


    LOLOLOLOL

    Thread title should be : Many cons are too gullible to tell The Onions from real news.
     
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    PT Barnum said that " a sucker is born every minute".
     
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    When people want to believe something so bad that they do not scrutinize the story or know the source they are asking to be fooled. There is an old added age that if something seems too good to be true it very likely is not true. This is not just a disease of Conservatives since Liberals have been know to fool themselves.
     
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    You have to love a strategy based entirely on the stupidity of your opponents. Assuming this is true - and I rarely make such assumptions, especially when something fits my prejudices - it is just too funny. Ain't no cure for stupid.
     
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    We have to you don't you post the most outlandish the about conservatives, like the above. and get a pass.
     
  8. TomFitz

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    I wouldn't go as far as to say that.

    But it is no secret that right wingers seem to take everything they read on a blog or hear on Fox or a talk radio show at face value without question.

    I can't remember the time even one of our far right wing friends every fact checked a story they posted.
     
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    If you ever needed an example of the exception proving the rule, this thread is it.

    The OP posts an interesting and well written article on the topic of lefties setting up fake conservative news sites.

    But, take a look at this article with a critical eye, and you'll notice the real story.

    First of all, this site is exactly the sort of site that that the author complains about. It is obscure, and it is clearly partisan

    Second, the article consists entirely of a brief survey of some stories fact checked by Snopes. Of course, the irony here is that Snopes is a site that right wingers love to hate, since it routinely blows up fake stories that run on real right wing sites.

    Third, the author fails to provide a single piece of evidence to support her claim that any of the stories that she cited were created by any liberal, or by any organization affiliated with any Democratic campaign organizaition or advocacy group.

    It is a very clever and well done piece. But it is also pure, unadulterated spin.

    A news article that makes a claim that is based on no evidence at all, yet is constructed to look authoratative and legitimate.

    What is the objective here?

    It seems to me that this sort of thing is cropping up around conservative media. It's a form of innoculation from the stupidity and irresponsibility that has permeated right wing media for quite a long time now.

    The yellow journalists don't want to see their audiences embarrassed for having fallen for the constant flood of fake news and vitriol that has been pouring out of sites like WND, The Blaze, Brietbart, Daily Caller, Fox, etc for years now

    So, they manufacture the appearance that fake news is a liberal plant. As with all right wing fake news, no evidence is required, bucause the audience falls for it every time.
     
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    Then there are the morons who believe what they hear on NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, etc. Shoot, they even believe the mush spewed forth by the likes of Saturday Night Live. They rush to forums posting thread after thread. They don't seem to have a clue how silly they are. They think the more they post, the more credible they are.

    They couldn't be more wrong.
     
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    I can tell from personal experience.
    This is how it goes around here,even. :roflol:
    Republican person gets ahold of one of these sites,makes thread with reference.Turns out site is bogus as all get-out.
    Progressive person usually just posts multiple troll threads on same subject with only rhetoric.
    I considered starting a thread about it,but nah.
     
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    "Poe's Law"-- ”Without a clear indication of the author's intent, it is difficult or impossible to tell the difference between an expression of sincere extremism and a parody of extremism."


    How do you tell a PARODY of a "World Net Daily" story...full of craziness, hate, paranoia, etc.....

    from a REAL "World Net Daily" story....full of craziness, hate, paranoia, etc.?
    :)
     
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    I would

    The Laffer Curve
    Trickle Down Economics
    Debt panic

    and on and on
     
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    Now that's laffable in and of itself. The Laffer curve which mathematically demonstrates beyond a reasonable doubt that there is a percentage rate at which tax revenues are maximized and that it is well short of that hallucinogenic 90% leftist dreamers fawn over never mind that it never raised a dollar of taxes because the very few people who, at the time it was in vogue, were affected by it, left the country. Trickle Down economics is the notion that the more money you leave in people's pockets the more economic activity there will be. It is also a demonstrable fact.

    As for debt panic I'm in need of more info to state whether you're engaged in a leftist fantasy or not.
     
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    Dude...the Laffer curve is as flawed as the notion of trickle down economics

    But as noted...you believe it's true based on...nothing
     
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    I belive it based on mathematics. If you tax and 0% you get nothing. If you tax at 100% you get next to nothing because people will not work.

    There has to exist a steady state maximum between 0% and 100%. Thst is the Laffer curve it's a mathematical fact not an opinion.

    The problem is that liberals ignore that the momentum of the economy is on the order of decades. It takes a long long time for over taxation to tear down an economy. The left confuses the transient state with the steady state because of this.
     
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    No I believe the are true based on empirical evidence and mathematics, You believe them false based on lies and arrogance.
     
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    It's bull(*)(*)(*)(*). It doesn't have any basis in the real world...like everything else right wingers believe
     
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    So the kneejerk reaction is CENSORSHIP? :eekeyes:

    Whatever happened to personal responsibility and critical thinking skills or have those been outsourced to 3rd world nations now? ;)

    If it sounds too good to be true then just check it out with a couple of clicks first. It really isn't that hard to do. After all everyone posting here has equal access to the internet and tools like Google at their disposal.

    That is a whole lot easier than trying to censor the entire nation just because there are pranksters out there exercising their own 1st amendment rights.
     
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    I checked out the author and yes, she is a columnist on sites like Townhall.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/rach...radical-fake-conservative-news-sites-n2211522

    She posts RW conspiracy drivel too.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/rach...ee-with-ties-to-dnc-mysteriously-die-n2203000
     
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    Yes it does even Socialist paradises like Scandinavia have low corporate rates because of the curve. Corporations have a lower maximum because they have more means to up and leave than individuals do.

    Try and make reasoned legitimate arguments than screaming it's not true like a petulant spoiled brat who just found out there is no Santa.
     
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    To me it looks like Clinton gets her murder ideas from Columbo.
    Way too many potential witnesses drop like flies around Clinton for it be a coincidence.
    This is something I noticed 20 years ago.I was neutral up until 2 different planes went down.
     

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