The Left Often Say We Should Be More Like France

But France says, "No thank you" to "America's woke ideology." They want nothing to do with it. The following are excerpts from the article:

https://www.newsweek.com/macron-fra...lture-thats-racializing-their-country-1634706



One of France's leading magazines, Le Spectacle Du Monde, ran a cover story titled "The Suicide of America." The magazine blamed America's retreat from Afghanistan on "a woke dictatorship" and questioned whether the American "empire was collapsing."

In the same issue, an article faulted U.S. universities as islands of extremism, where even students' Halloween costumes are policed, citing Yale University as a place where "offensive" costume-wearers were punished.

A few miles from where U.S. soldiers landed on the beaches of Normandy, a conference of leading politicians, journalists and intellectuals devoted a panel to "America's woke ideology." Some panelists seemed alarmed by the trends they saw in American society, including alleged "woke" censorship by Twitter, Facebook and other U.S. tech giants.

the panel was full of criticism about the perceived decline of free speech in America.

In an interview with Elle magazine earlier this summer, President Macron said American-imported "woke culture" is "racializing" France and creating more division among minorities.

Macron's anti-woke sentiment is widely shared in his government, even by the delegate minister for gender equality and diversity, Elisabeth Moreno, a Black woman born in Cape Verde, off the coast of western Africa. In a televised interview with Bloomberg, she praised the increased awareness on social issues, but rejected cancel culture because it can "kick out people from ongoing debates because they think otherwise."

"The two most toxic ideologies of the 20th century were Nazism and Marxism. In my opinion, Nazism was identity politics on steroids, and Marxism was an oppressor narrative on steroids. The combination of the two is actually modern wokeism that was born in the United States," said Vivek Ramaswamy, author of Woke Inc.

 

Hi, independentthinker.

I'm at a loss for a clear definition of a 'woke dictatorship'. Or, for that matter, 'woke'. Can you be of assistance?

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

I've literally never heard anyone say the US should be more like France. Not saying there aren't idiots who at some point in time may have uttered such nonsense. But let's just not pretend it's such a common thing.
And since when do we care what someone from France thinks about the US?

 

I don't see any on the left moving to France.

 

I can't recall the last time I heard someone say we should be more like France.

 

Everyone has their own definition of woke. This stuff is from France so you'd have to ask them. Care to comment on the OP? Take all of the "woke" references out and comment on the general theme.

 

Many lefties say all the time we should be more like Europe. The last I heard, France was part of Europe.

 

When Saudi Arabia cuts off a theifs hand, i always hear some conservatives say they wish we were that tough on crime.

I don't really think it means that any of them believe we should copy everything Saudi Arabia does.

 

So, this is your chance to go on record as saying that the US should not be more like France. If you can't do that then your post is pointless.

 

I think we should have universal health care.

I don't care what France does.

 

The author sounds like an idiot. The Nazi/Marxist comparisons alone are idiotic enough.

 

Voters, woke or not, are becoming irrelevant. The corrupt ruling political class can usually safely ignore them.

"Emmanuel Macron has sent shockwaves throughout Europe after he conceded that French voters would quit the EU if France held an in/out referendum on the Brussels-led bloc.

No other European Union country has risked putting membership of the bloc to a public vote since Britain surprised member-states by voting to leave the bloc in 2016"
THE EXPRESS, EU BOMBSHELL: Macron admits France would vote to LEAVE EU if country held referendum, By OLI SMITH, PUBLISHED: 10:15, Sun, Jan 21, 2018.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/9...e-to-LEAVE-EU-referendum-Brexit-Brussels-Marr

 

Ummmmmmmmmmmm, this is about France and the US.

 

So, you couldn't say it. I'll give you another chance. All you have to say is that you don't think the US should be more like France. Can you do it? I predict another dodge, which proves my point.

 

Reminds me of what the left want to do with this country, take democracy away.

 

The only side trying to do that is the far right, such as Trump supporters

 

So not specifically France like you originally claimed. Got it.

Must be the lefties you hang out with

 

It's a dumb question.

I'm sure i could think of some things France has that are better than what we have.

I'm sure i could think of some things that we have in common with France that I wish we didn't have at all.

So I think that the US should probably be more like France in some ways, and less like France in others.

I'm not dodging anything, you are asking a stupid question that isn't useful for anything because of how imprecise the question is.

 

Last I heard, there was more to Europe than just France. But since you are relying on braindead idiots who compare "wokeism" to Nazism . . .

 

The democratic process considered politically inexpedient by our corrupt ruling political class.

The Inconvenient Truth straight from the SCOTUS:

"It remains true, however, that flagrant examples of such fraud in other parts of the country have been documented throughout this Nation’s history by respected historians and journalists,[Footnote 11] that occasional examples have surfaced in recent years,[Footnote 12] and that Indiana’s own experience with fraudulent voting in the 2003 Democratic primary for East Chicago Mayor[Footnote 13]—though perpetrated using absentee ballots and not in-person fraud—demonstrate that not only is the risk of voter fraud real but that it could affect the outcome of a close election."
Crawford v. Marion County Election Bd., 553 U.S. 181 (200 (emphasis mine)

 

You didn't say that that it should not be more like France, so I guess your post is pointless.

I disagree with the title of your post that the left says we should be more like France. I believe the thought rarely crosses their mind. Unless you can post data suggesting I am wrong here your post is pointless.

 

Hi again.

What remains, following your instructions, makes little sense. My answer to your suggestion is summed by:

“If you want to converse with me, first define your terms” Voltaire.

I'm sorry about that. I do enjoy a good conversation.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

How have they taken democracy away? They're not the ones issuing mask mandates, vaccine mandates, and taking free speech rights away and wanting to take 2A rights away.

 

Or the previous 1000 post on that VERY SUBJECT on this VERY WEBSITE ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

We can simplify this very easily. All you have to say is that you don't want the US to be more like France.