The left wants Republicans to cave on ObamaCare

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  1. pjohns

    pjohns Well-Known Member

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    I already have done that.

    In case you missed it, Obamacare--unlike the "puppy" in your hypothetical--is neither innocent nor a hostage...

    For better or for worse, ObamaCare is no longer on the table. But spending cuts are.

    I believe a reasonable negotiation would involve the GOP's agreeing to a one-time increase in the debt ceiling, in return for significant cuts in discretionary spending, in order to balance the budget--and even begin the very arduous process of paying down the national debt.

    In other words, he is asking the Republicnas--whom he has repeatedly trashed--to merely trust him to follow through, after they have already caved...

    That is how negotiations are supposed to occur -- a give and take in which each party agrees to give up something in order to get something, a fair exchange that doesn't involve gutting one party's main achievement, and doesn't involve one party threatening to tank the economy unless they get their way.[/QUOTE]
     
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    Your option that is open to you is to hold the house and retake the Senate and White House with candidates that will work to overturn the law.

    And I want you to do that.

    Nominate the most fire-breathing right wingers you can.
     
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    That is essentially correct.

    As for the (gratuitous) "fire-breathing" part--an image that is, obviously, designed to conjour up thoughts of a cross between a Cotton Mather-style preacher and a dragon--it would be quite unnecessary. In fact, even counterproductive. (The late Ronald Reagan was the very apotheosis of a cheerful conservative--hardly the "fire-breathing" sort.)

    But I would be very pleased if the GOP were to nominate many conservatives (whom you pejoratively label "right wingers") in 2014. In fact, that strategy worked pretty well during the last midterms, in 2010. (Admittedly, it works much better when the GOP nominees do not speak outlandishly, as was the case with both Todd Akin in Missouri and Richard Mourdock in Indiana, in 2012.)
     

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