The LGBT fraud has been exposed, and they’re definitely not happy about it

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Even if you believe it is an inherent, immutable trait of the individual, no such individuals have been observed in the animal kingdom. Only individuals exhibiting what could be characterized as homosexual behavior. And even that behavior, for instance nesting with the same sex while exclusively engaging in sex, only with the opposite sex, IS NOT the human concept of homosexuality.

    Homosexuality as a moral transgression of the individual was a human invention. Homosexuality as a mental disorder of the individual is a human invention. Just as homosexuality as an inherent, immutable trait of the individual is a human invention. Just as the others have been to varying degrees, uninvented, it is beginning again.

    The separation of sexuality from procreation entails its freedom from heterosexuality and its emergence as an individual attribute, something individuals can develop, enjoy, change or project as part of their changing definition of the self. Sexuality becomes plastic because the self itself has broken the bounds of traditional institutional expectations and it is now free to constitute and reconstitute itself in a series of narratives answering to nothing else but the growing freedom of individuals to develop their potential
    http://www.colorado.edu/Sociology/gimenez/work/GIDDENS.TXT
     
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    Yeah, religion is also purely a human invention. I would equally contradict any claim that religion is observed in nature
     
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    Ok, well male coupling is seen throughout the animal kingdom. Call it what you will. It is irrelevant. Why does the picture disgust you so much Dixon.

    As is religion, and driving, and wearing clothes; I'm not sure why you keep repeating this.
    When was homosexuality "invented"? What decade? Who invented it?
     
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    Humans do lots of things no other animal does. Congratulations you have indicated humans are significantly different. Wow, i would have never guessed.

    :roll: yes again humans are unlike all other animals. You established this already.

    If you're going to say that old theories being made obsolete upon new discovery indicates that the theory is just an invention, you reject science and knowledge as a whole.


    That is assuming that sexuality was ever part of procreation to begin with.
     
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    Revealing that you view my denial of the claim that homosexuality as an inherent, immutable trait of the individual is observed in nature to be based upon disgust.

    The first known appearance of homosexual in print is found in an 1869 German pamphlet by the Austrian-born novelist Karl-Maria Kertbeny, published anonymously,[22] arguing against a Prussian anti-sodomy law In 1886, Richard von Krafft-Ebing used the terms homosexual and heterosexual in his book Psychopathia Sexualis
     
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    What? It was common in Greek and roman days
     
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    You refused to answer the question and instead deflected to homosexual relations in the animal kingdom. So I assumed the photograph disturbed you. Why does the picture disgust you? If it doesn't all you have to do is say so.



    If they were arguing for sodomy laws in 1869 one would assume that its existence predated the law. Homosexuality was recorded as far back as 2494 BC in Rome. You're only off by four thousand years give or take, well within the margin of error...
     
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    Men diddled little boys for sexual pleasure but they still breed with women. AND still it was not seen as an inherent, immutable trait of the individual any more than use of a prostitute was seen as an inherent, immutable trait of the individual.
     
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    No one denies that sodomy has always existed. No one denies that homosexual behavior has always existed. BUT, this concept of homosexuality as an inherent, immutable trait of the individual is a recent invention. You wouldn't understand.

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    Tell that to all the other posters who have convinced themselves otherwise. I have always been amused by the homosexuals look to the animal kingdom for guidance on their behaviors.
     
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    So the fact that references to homosexuality appear in your bible don't count?

    Is that because that would prove that homosexuality has been around at least as long as religion?
     
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    Like the APA rejected the science that classified homosexuality as a mental disorder. Not all science

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    Im an atheist and no mentions of homosexuality in the bible. Only homosexual behavior.
     
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    Please cite the actual "science" that classified homosexuality as a "mental disorder".
    Hmmmmm!

    So you claim to be an atheist and yet you are pushing a religious agenda?

    Can you provide links to other posts that you have made supporting your "atheist" credentials in this forum?
     
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    Id rather watch you wallow in your ignorance of the topic.
     
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    Ironic coming from someone who is masquerading as an "atheist" while spouting religious dogma!

    :roflol:
     
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    They are just pointing out that animals exhibit homosexual behavior.

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    What science?
     
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    You could help avoid making yourself appear to be a fool by searching on my posts for the word "Atheist" to find the 241 posts of mine, most of them stating "I am an atheist". Ive also read the Koran and most of the Sunni Hadiths, but that doesn't make me a muslim either.
     
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    AND then vehemently denying my assertion that "homosexuality" as an inherent and immutable trait of the individual is nonexistent in the animal kingdom. And they offer examples of animals who never have sex with the same sex and only engage in sex with members of the opposite sex as examples of this "homosexuality" in the animal kingdom. They believe what they soooooo desperately need to believe.
     
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    :roflol:

    You have made almost 45k posts and in a mere handful you have made an allegation that cannot be backed up by any actual atheist positions such as stipulating that there is no evidence for the existence of an omnipotent creator of the universe.

    Atheists don't post religious nonsense like "no mentions of homosexuality in the bible. Only homosexual behavior" because that is not something an atheist would consider to be a valid position against homosexuality.

    You are going to have provide links to actual posts where you clearly stipulate that there is no deity if you want to prove that you actually are an atheist.


     
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    Ironic coming from a "desperate believer"!

    :roflol:

    Are you trying to pretend that only same sex intercourse is the sole definition of homosexuality?

    Because if that is the case then explain those who are attracted to the same sex and yet never act upon that attraction and instead remain celibate all of their lives?

    Does that make them heterosexual even if they have never had opposite sex intercourse?

    If it does then your bogus definition of homosexuality is utterly ludicrous.

    Perhaps you had better try and define homosexuality as you "understand" it and stop playing religious whack-a-gay-mole games.
     
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    So what? Support your assertion.

    The only desperation that is evident is yours to deny the reality that same sex marriage is legal and that homosexuality is considered normal by our culture.

    You ought not call the kettle black kiddo.
     
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    I will translate the following.
    Translation:I know of absolutely no science. All science actually seems to indicate that the classification of homosexuality as a mental illness was emotional reaction. And I'm too much of a bigot to admit I'm wrong.
     
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    He rejects that definition of homosexuality because he likes to objectify homosexuals and dehumanize them. It makes it eaiser to hold his position.
     
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    The lack of empathy amongst those who hate gays is astounding given that they claim that what they are spouting is their "god's love".

    And there is no sound rational basis for their hatred, it is nothing but emoting on their part.
     
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    I don't think this behavior has anything to do with God or God's law. You don't see this behavior with regard to lechery, premarital sex, greed or anything that god forbade. Nothing else, why is that i wonder.

    I have two theories, there is overlap.
     
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    Actually, you people are denying my assertions that it was a human invention. How is something that is the product of human "emotional reaction" not be considered a human invention.
     

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